FRPP Crate PCM and Aftermarket Calibration Support : Extra Steps

For the FRPP Crate Engine Controls packs we support and certain aftermarket calibrations, the controller is not automatically identified by the VCM Editor software. You must verify your controller type and select the appropriate controller in order to read and license the calibration. (See Screenshots below)

http://i.imgur.com/LNqrixu.png

http://i.imgur.com/OBbI7Mp.png

At the end of the read, you will be prompted to generate an OSID for the controller:

http://i.imgur.com/yNSHDpe.png

Hit OK to complete the process required for licensing.

http://i.imgur.com/xxO5xv4.png

Now you can licence and flash the controller.

This should help with ECU Identification:

Copperhead

http://i.imgur.com/tI3Bnc1.jpg

TC-1767

http://i.imgur.com/lspQxwD.jpg

TC-1797

http://i.imgur.com/YKTXr2u.jpg

TC-1791

http://i.imgur.com/CWT4nwx.jpg

@Eric will this also work for PCM's with renamed OS doing with SCT?

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Originally Posted by Auto-Hentzschel

@Eric will this also work for PCM's with renamed OS doing with SCT?

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No.

All of the aftermarket operating systems we support now have DMRs defined, in the latest beta. The above steps MUST be done to get logging to work on many of them.

You said to get "logging" to work on them - the above is addressing "tuning" unless I'm missing something here Eric... Is there something that specifically has to be done to get the scanner to work with the A/M OS's that I just overlooked?

Hi Eric,
I'm not having any luck getting the licensing to work with my crate Copperhead PCM. I'm able to read the file, but can't save or write to the PCM. The OSID error didn't show up after the read. Is there any other way to get there? btw, I'm using editor version 3.6.26

EDIT: if anyone else runs into this issue, the fix for me was using version 3.7 beta.

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Hi Eric,
I'm not having any luck getting the licensing to work with my crate Copperhead PCM. I'm able to read the file, but can't save or write to the PCM. The OSID error didn't show up after the read. Is there any other way to get there? btw, I'm using editor version 3.6.26

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Email support with your read.

Thanks again for the info

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Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners

All of the aftermarket operating systems we support now have DMRs defined, in the latest beta. The above steps MUST be done to get logging to work on many of them.

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@Eric

Does Hptuners Save/export Aftermarket OS to nGauge?

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Originally Posted by LastPlace

@Eric

Does Hptuners Save/export Aftermarket OS to nGauge?

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If you do the original reading with an MPVI, it should work via nGauge export. If you read via nGauge, it depends on which controller and OSID you are dealing with. Some of these require quite a bit of work behind the scenes to work properly, and this happens right after read with an MPVI.

Hey Eric. Can you help me find the correct hardware for this newer pcm I have that is not listed. CM-12A650-DRA. Its for the 2015-2017 coyote gen 2 motor. Standard control pack for manual transmission. Similar to TC 1791 Except has the numbers I gave you. Can you help me please

Eric, I have an 5.0 coyote mounted on the engine dyno. I took a lot of effort to mount and wire ecu. I was hoping to tune this engine but I am enable to license.
I am able to perform a read using coyote 2048k but it never generates either a osid or vin. I tried the latest suite and Beta version to no avail. also tried reading ecu by picking all available ford ecu options the only one that works is the coyote 2048k. the ecu is a FRPP ecu offered by ford.
ECU
VXT3
Pn: BR3A-12B650-AVD
BR3A-12B684-AC
P\N; 5WY8904GBBK
S\N; 6000121601

Help!
sent an email yesterday to HP support no word yet included to read file
Attachment 83008

Attachment 83009

Nobody is able to help out with Ford Racing Track Cal?

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Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners

For the FRPP Crate Engine Controls packs we support and certain aftermarket calibrations, the controller is not automatically identified by the VCM Editor software. You must verify your controller type and select the appropriate controller in order to read and license the calibration. (See Screenshots below)

http://i.imgur.com/LNqrixu.png

http://i.imgur.com/OBbI7Mp.png

At the end of the read, you will be prompted to generate an OSID for the controller:

http://i.imgur.com/yNSHDpe.png

Hit OK to complete the process required for licensing.

http://i.imgur.com/xxO5xv4.png

Now you can licence and flash the controller.

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Eric,

When will the VCM editor apply the DMR patching to the 2018+ aftermarket calibrations?

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Originally Posted by Auto-Hentzschel

@Eric will this also work for PCM's with renamed OS doing with SCT?

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No.

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So if a car was tuned with SCT first, you won't be able to tune it with an HP Tuner?

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Originally Posted by LaserRed94

So if a car was tuned with SCT first, you won't be able to tune it with an HP Tuner?

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Id also like to clarify this. i still cant read the file from my 02 gt. have had contact with support on the issue and explained the ecm had been previously tuned. that did not seam to be a concern and was told the HP software was working out some kinks. waited 2-3 months.... recently got an email stating the new beta should fix it. installed latest beta and updated mpvi2 firmware. scanner picks up vehicle with no issue, logging works fine. engine has had pro-charger installed for about 10 years now. was tuned by local shop using what i imagine was SCT software after install.
it would defiantly be a bummer if this is the case, but not the end of the world. would just like to know what the answer is.
any input would be much appreciated.

Completely New to the Forum and trying to figure out what I need to buy for a 5 year project I am a OLD GUY with years of experience with Vehicles just not a Coyote.

1. I have 1967 Ford Crew Cab Short Bed with a 2015 M-6017-504V Control Pack on a 4 year old project up and Running with a new M-6007-M50A FRRP Coyote in it.

2. I never wrote down or took a photo of the PCM, yes stupid but didn't know if they are all the same or not for Calibration----I was new to this CRATE idea and the Package was new at the time I started the project.

3. It is BURED behind CUSTOM BODY PANELS and will be an absolute Pain to get too.

4. Are Control Packs not Calibrated in 2015 from FRRP as the same?

5. Does anyone know the CODE like the Instructions show above with TC-1791???? Or can they be different for every engine sold?

Vehicle is up and running and needs to be tuned for the Headers and Custom Intake and is Throwing the Check Engine light but I can't read any codes on any of my Buddys HP or Snap On readers?

I want to buy from HP and learn how to do this, just trying to avoid two days of disassembly.

Thanks

Hi Eric I'm new to HP tuners and I have a question for this thread. The ECM that came with the controls Pack I purchased from ford does not show up on the list of ECM's in your list of controllers. What I have is the Attachment 104773 is it the same as the 1791 continental?

Email support Eric very rarely checks the forum.

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Originally Posted by LastPlace

Email support Eric very rarely checks the forum.

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Thx.

I had to go this FRPP route with my 2018 coyote 5.0 manual (M-6017-M50B).
I followed the advice of how to identify my ecu and so to pick the right hardware option. Non of it matches my ecu, so i started playing and the only pick under 'hardware' could read my ecu was 'TC-298, ECM, 2018+ Ford'.

Now am I having the right one? Am I seeing all setting options? Am I about to blow my ecu when writing to it? If it is wrong, how to move on?

I already send off a support request, but I am hoping to get solid advice here sooner.

Tc-1797

Hi, I have a Continental RMFR3A-12A650-CLB that appears to have no data or file on it? I read it with TC1791 & followed the proceedure laid out in the above intstructions. After reading got the prompt to generate the OSID, hit OK, it earesed & started to write back but timed out at about 95%. It now has no data, will not start, crank over etc. Also when trying to view data with any diagnostic scanner it does not appear to have anything in it & HP Tuners MVPI2 does not recognise it, comes up detect protocol failed. What next?

this is a blank pcm, serv on the sticker says so. it has to be PMI'd to your car using IDS

From Eric:

The Gen 3 Coyote crate engine control pack ECU uses controller TC-298

Ford Part #: RMJR3A-12A650-AKA

Good morning, I have the same problem. i cant read copperhead ecu from ford frpp control pack. were you able to fix it? it tells me when reading "controller unlocked x7f service not supported in active session"

TC-298 Picture

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TC-298 Picture

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From Eric:

The Gen 3 Coyote crate engine control pack ECU uses controller TC-298

Ford Part #: RMJR3A-12A650-AKA

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Would TC-298 work with both manual and automatic control packs?

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Originally Posted by newguy

Would TC-298 work with both manual and automatic control packs?

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Yes...and no.

I found that hardware is the same, even for 3.5 V6 manual or automatic but you need to not only swap OS but...you also need to work with your eeprom which HPT can't do.

I successfully reprogrammed F150 2.7 PCM to work as 5.0 Mustang but you need more advanced tools that reads not only flash but eeprom as well.

The same goes with manual to automatic.

Funny story: v6 pcm would take v8 file but only 6 cylinders would fire and will work just fine besides that...must be a cyl no selection switch in eeprom.

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Originally Posted by Tuningperformance

Hi, I have a Continental RMFR3A-12A650-CLB that appears to have no data or file on it? I read it with TC1791 & followed the proceedure laid out in the above intstructions. After reading got the prompt to generate the OSID, hit OK, it earesed and began to compose back however coordinated out at legal services personal statement https://www.aussiessay.com/personal-statement-writing/. It presently has no information, won't begin, wrench over and so on. Likewise while attempting to see information with any demonstrative scanner it doesn't seem to have anything in it and HP Tuners MVPI2 doesn't remember it, comes up recognize convention fizzled. What next?

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Service replacement PCM for M-6017-M50A 2015-2017 Mustang Coyote control pack. Comes with the controls pack calibration for 2015-2017 Mustang Coyote engine with automatic 6R80 transmission.

awsome thanks u HPtuner sharing

Hi Guys,
even have the TC-298 from a M-6017-M50B Gen 3 2018+ Control Pack

unfortunately, i dont get the "set a OS ID" prompt and after Reading a checksum error.

already sent a mail to support@ but yet didn?t get any answer.

any ideas?

Would anyone happen to have a stock,untouched read from a M-6017-M50A? This is the 15-17 Gen 2 6r80 controls pack. I have a car here that is supposed to have that kit but I get the feeling this is a stock GT PCM that's been PATS disabled.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners

All of the aftermarket operating systems we support now have DMRs defined, in the latest beta. The above steps MUST be done to get logging to work on many of them.

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Hello. What are the DMRs ? What is the full name of DMRs ?

Direct Memory Register, so you can log the actual variables being used.

Thank you very much for the explanation :D