06 300c 6.1 stock file?

[802djeezy]

Anyone have a stock tune file for an 06 300c 6.1
Did a motor swap and a few tunes and won't start up and at a loss right now. Was told the 5.7 parameters won't work with the engine so idk if the tuner knows this or even knows anything at this point

[rays04gtx]

Anyone have a stock tune file for an 06 300c 6.1
Did a motor swap and a few tunes and won't start up and at a loss right now. Was told the 5.7 parameters won't work with the engine so idk if the tuner knows this or even knows anything at this point

Never heard that Line before......it will not run it's best on 5.7 values.....

Here's 4 one might be a duplicate .

one of my daughters 04 Rams is running a well built 6.1 close to 700hp on the 04 Ram PCM.......if that thing will run tens , yours sure should start.

[802djeezy]

I'm going to give that a shot when it gets back. I brought it to chrysler to see if maybe it was something mechanical but all they could tell me was oh this engine doesn't go to this car...after telling them multiple times it was a motor swap no start this build has been going for 4 years and I'm ready to throw in the towel..so at this point I don't know if it's the tune or something mechanical. It starts for a second with some spray then shuts right down
I appreciate you

[ShelbyDogg]

I have a video with a swap harness running my 6.1. Maybe it will help you troubleshoot it. Don't give up. Not too many important wires to hook up to make it start. https://youtu.be/U-B57Ljgw_M

[802djeezy]

Do you think this could be a reason? Trying to post the picture one second

[802djeezy]

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this isnt connected, could this cause a no start?

[ShelbyDogg]

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this isnt connected, could this cause a no start?

Mine is plugged but yours should still start but the idle will be very high with that port open.

[Hpsonny]

sounds like the skim is still on

[PurpleRam]

sounds like the skim is still on

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What Sonny said.

[N2speed]

Skim has nothing to do with an engine swap.

[rays04gtx]

Skim has nothing to do with an engine swap.

Yes Skim shouldn't have anything to do with an engine swap.... but we don't know if the "TUNER" enabled it for what ever reason, the OP never attached his current tune.............in the past I've seen two different "pro Tunes" Enable it for what reasons, they only know......So Yes in this case it could be the issue. Stranger things have happened.

[802djeezy]

2006 300c Start REV3 (1).hpt

this is the current tune. Even brought it to Chrysler, they wont work on it "because they dont know where the parts came from" ...useless

[802djeezy]

Chrysler says they think it is the pcm as it is not programmed to run that engine?

[rays04gtx]

Chrysler says they think it is the pcm as it is not programmed to run that engine?

If it's the PCM it's because there's an issue with the PCM and not the tune....sometimes I wonder what they are thinking.


The Engine side of this tune should work, there's few things on the trans side I don't like but none of it will keep this from starting.

If this doesn't start and run on this tune, there is something else wrong

2nd attached tune is my daughters 6.1 04 Rumble bee , it's NOT a tune that will work with your car, but it's posted as a reference that 6.1s can and do run on 5.7 PCM's , if we can run 10.60s with 6.1(370ci) Naturally Asperated(637-650RWHP) in a 4250 fat a$$ ram there is no reason why your car can't start on a modified 5.7 ECU.

[LilSick]

Chrysler says they think it is the pcm as it is not programmed to run that engine?

Yes, The earlier engines had a different reluctor ring on the crank. Different number of teeth. So Chrysler is right in that if you do not use the right engine with the right stock pcm it will not work. Chrysler does not use HPT. They look up your stock tune by the cars VIN number and load it.

[802djeezy]

It's got a spartan plus cam 6.1 heads 6.1 intake 6.1 exhaust manifolds 6.1 catted downpipes..
I was mainly looking for chrysler to rule out any mechanical issue but they refused to work on it. 4 years into this finally get this motor in and it won't start I'm hurt ha
This is as far as chrysler would goScreenshot_20230115-094812_Messenger.jpg

[rays04gtx]

It's got a spartan plus cam 6.1 heads 6.1 intake 6.1 exhaust manifolds 6.1 catted downpipes..
I was mainly looking for chrysler to rule out any mechanical issue but they refused to work on it. 4 years into this finally get this motor in and it won't start I'm hurt ha
This is as far as chrysler would goScreenshot_20230115-094812_Messenger.jpg

you have every right to be hurt, I get it, lots of time,money effort invested in to this.

So lets go through the stupid Questions

1) are you getting fuel to the rails ? with the key on ? is it 48+ psi ?
2) do the coils have power going to them while the key is on ?
3) is it turning over when you turn the key to start?

The tune you posted had Skim Capable Enabled, I disabled it.....give it a shot, I've run in to that before where it kept a car from starting.

[802djeezy]

yes to all it sounds like it wants to start just doesn't
how would i remove the skim? where can i find that in the tune

[802djeezy]

They didn't tell me the pressure all they said was the pressure at the rails were all good

[802djeezy]

this is the one i just put on it, yesterday. still nothing06 300C Base map Pump gas #1 (3).hpt

ETA- I uploaded that file you sent...sent a video of it trying to start, I don't have a clue what my next steps should be