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    Question What's the best 2014 stock 5.7 Hemi kit & Tune

    Hi all: I?m new at this so just bear with me please, this is what I got now 2014 ram 1500 5.7L Hemi Quote 4d, 2WD, clutch fan delete, V6 EV, AC fan moved to the front still working of the PCM no change, 180F Thermostat, Cold Air Intake, Shorty heaters, strait pipes out, oil catcher, 33.8 inch tires, new hot coils and new plugs. AmsOil Signature Series 5W-20 Synthetic with BIO/TECH oil protectant Truck runs great. This what I would like, new cam, lifters, springs, rods, Melling oil pump, and 6.4 intake, Long Tubes, what?s the best kit for cam and lifter and oil pump set up and easiest to tune MDS or MDS delete something that will give me lot of good miles? Please any advice will to.

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    That’s a loaded question, lot of it depends on money, MMX, Flying Ryan both have some great entry level cams.
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    From what I've read an oil pump won't affect anything, you'd be better off leaving it as is. The 6.4 off the ram has shown promise, as for cam it depends. I went with Comp cams shortly after install I learned of FRP who is reputable. I was trying Geeene Racing who specializes in Rams but he's extremely busy so I didn't wanna risk that. I run 5w30 over the 20 now that MDS is gone. Car enjoys it. When picking a cam focus on your goal, do you want drivability or performance? If you daily it I wouldn't go bigger than a stage 2 HRT cam. You can replace your oil pump with a new OEM pump, thats what I did when I threw my cam in. Old pump had 156k on it. I was going to try a hellcat pump but from what I read is all it does is increase oil PSI(resistance) those pumps can be more powerful because the oil is driven by more than gravity. The 5.7 relies on only the crank driven pump , there are no oil kets. I would just grab a thicker oil for better filming. Redline while it is expensive does really well. I replaced my liquimoly 5w20 with it so I didn't see a price difference xD

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    201-306-17 Comp is a decent kit

    I would not use a stock pump with it tho

    In my book 10 psi per 1000 rpm is the min

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    MDS Delete tune with HPT is quite straight forward. Rest of mileage tuning will take some testing and logging.

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    I'm Running the FRP Tomahawk cam (228/238 .611/.602 +113.5), Comp Cam Evo short travel lifters, and everything else you have on your list there in my 2016 Ram 1500 4 dr. And I did opt to run the stock Hellcat oil pump and personally, I don't think I would run any of the cam options, particularly those with numbers around the stage 3 cam card range and higher, without a stock hellcat oil pump. But that's just my opinion. And I can honestly say that I don't regret any of the choices I made that make up the particular combo that I'm running, and I feel pretty confident that you would feel the same way with the set up similar to what I have in my Ram. FRP Mark 82 or the Tomahawk cam are good options, with the Mark 82 being just a lil smaller than the Tomahawk, but with slightly better low end in return. The comp cam stage 3 is also another great option. The high lift NA stage 3 cam that advertises having 224/234 and I believe lift of .632/.619. I'm happy with the comp evo lifters so far but if you can spring for Johnson lifters, that would likely be an even better choice. You're good with either the PSI 1515ml springs or the pac 1275-X springs. Long tubes will be a must and I did have the American Racing 1-3/4 cat-less long tubes originally but have recently switched those out for the newer Texas speed 2' primary long tubes and I've been happy with both sets of headers really. definitely swap in the 6.4L truck intake, as it's a good addition to the mix. And one thing I don't think you mentioned that you absolutely must have if upgrading to a combo like this, would be a stall converter. This type of set-up just won't mesh well at all without at least a minimum stall of 3000, ideally more like 3400-3800. But if a daily driver I would suggest staying closer to the 3000 range for drivability.
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    Question you need to ask yourself is, what are your intentions with the truck coz that will determine what type of cam you "really" need. Everyone's provided good advice so I'm not going to repeat it but tagging onto the response from Spray-Cam Hell-Ram, I've purchased the FPR Mark 82 cam kit for my 19 Ram 1500. I very complete kit in my option when it comes to what you get. The Mark 82 is a more suited cam for what I use my truck for which is off road and occasional towing so I wanted good low end drivability with good torque using the stock converter. My truck is running a Harrop supercharger with Stainless Works full exhaust system so the cam is really to enhance my low end torque. With that said I'm still very happy with the overall performance of the truck and it can easily light up the 33's without trying.

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    Even with a stock 6.4 you want as much stall as you can get. 3500-4k. 6.4 is 11:1 motors with less cam than ^^^

    Look at how you are considering tightening the lobe separation. Look at your compression ratio. And the weight of your truck

    I wrote a tune for my trans for the street and driving to the track. Drives like stock around town and to the track where i load my track tune. Will flash 3500 at the track. Still not finished tuning there. Was flashing 3200 tuned by jay green
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    Big thing you have to worry about is trans , 8sp , your good to go....RFE65 , your screwed , those Big tires QC, even 4X2 will put a lot of stress on that trans,around town , keeping it under 70Mph no hard core racer Kick down in OD and it'll last a while, longer then any RFE545 will(stock Vs Stock)
    1st Not A FRP fan at all, but I know the guy who designed most of his cams(Steve) and he's a good. Jay Green is more of a truck guy, but in my experience ... Long time customers get better results.
    if your goal is weekend racer....TSP stage 1 is good choice , tuned correctly it'll be more then enough for most people,8sp trans stage 2 is good alternative

    MMX SKU#MM-NTR-NSR-MDS, is good for those who just want a "cam" sound and don't want get deep in to anything special and want to keep MDS ... on the plus side that cam will pick up about 25Ftlbs and 30 Hp over the stock 5.7 cam with out any added tuning, on my uncle's dyno mid Feb(this year 2023) he had a 2012 Ram 4x2 laid down 310hp/315tq (5800/4500rpms)installed MMX NTR-MDS cam,346@ 5700/ 350Ft@ 4350 ,TQ Curve came in 500 RPMs lower then stock, and peaked only 100RPMS lower....... after some tuning , the truck came up to 365hp@5800 , 365tq@4600 .keep in mind this was just a cam change, the OEM springs were kept, OEM lifters were kept, OEM cam phaser. truck cheap shortie headers and true 2.5 dual exhaust. total investment was 620 for the cam, $100 something for gaskets...and $ 500 for my Uncle to install the cam, he threw in before and after dyno runs, but did charge to tune it ant next few pulls. next they tossed a Sniper,...Loss every where under 5k rpms , Edelbrock 6.1 style intake, Made some gains above 6000 rpms, carried 340 Hp to 6200, then fell off . , the 6.4 truck manifold gained above 5500 RPMS peaking at 370 @ 5900 , but under 5500 was = to the 5.7 truck intake.....OCP Dual plane Intake...gained everywhere , roughly 20/20(380@5700/380@4400 and the odd ball test was Prefix single plane, pulled clear to 7k, peak 385@6000,and was still over 340 HP at 6600RPMs TQ had a shorter curve and peaked @ 360 @5100.
    All and still had stock MDS lifters and BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption)was still with in 5% of the stock pull.


    Comp Cams 201-300-17 was designed for 5.7 QC trucks,201-302-17 was designed for the 5.7 guys who wanted a little more out of the SRT 329 manual cam swap.
    My 2009 4x2 was used as one of the test trucks for both these cams, also tested that week was 201-424-17,201-700-17(turbo cam) out of these 4, 201-324-17 (XFIcam) made the Most power , but needed , Valve springs and a lot of tuning, but we made 440hp@6200 & 435tq @5100....Not ideal for a QC truck, same with 201-700-17(turbo cam) it out powered 201-300-17 and 201-302-17 and pulled till valve float, but Tq suffered greatly.
    300=365hp@6000/365tq@4900
    302=390hp@6000/390tq@4950
    Only tuning done with these 2(and 201-700-17) was Idle and some fueling to keep from leaning out and to keep knock sensors happy, none were tuned to their max this session.

    Some tuning and other mods will get you some better #s , this was a stock 09 6speed truck, 95k miles all test were done with stock cast iron manifolds, stock Intake stock TB and a cat back exhaust.