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    Throttle too sensitive

    Car is modified but with stock DD tables. From a stop, I have to be careful from a stop in particular. I'd like to dial back tip in sensitivity . File attached for review.

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    Do you have a throttle controller on the car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ View Post
    Do you have a throttle controller on the car?
    NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCZ View Post
    Car is modified
    That helps a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindsquirrel View Post
    That helps a lot.
    Glad I could help!

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    My first thought is that torque model is no bueno. But a datalog may confirm what is happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ View Post
    My first thought is that torque model is no bueno. But a datalog may confirm what is happening.
    Anything in particular you want me to log Jason?

    I've been driving it with the sensitive pedal for some time. Coming out of hibernation, I noticed it more than usual.

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    I often have to reduce the driver demand tables for off idle throttle snapping after the majority of tuning, but that's because of timing changes and everything that normally peps them up. Your driver demand looks greatly increased off idle, but I didn't compare it to a factory tune to know for sure. Just going by appearances. Then as Jason pointed out your torque model is dipping a lot then hits the sudden torque increase off idle. Probably makes it worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHuggins View Post
    I often have to reduce the driver demand tables for off idle throttle snapping after the majority of tuning, but that's because of timing changes and everything that normally peps them up. Your driver demand looks greatly increased off idle, but I didn't compare it to a factory tune to know for sure. Just going by appearances. Then as Jason pointed out your torque model is dipping a lot then hits the sudden torque increase off idle. Probably makes it worse.
    I compared DD tables to my stock file. I didn't see any changes in off idle settings while the bottom three lines were increased over stock. I am lost when it comes to torque modeling..

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    Who made your Flex Fuel Virtual Torque tables? That is issue #1. Looks like whoever converted your car to Flex Fuel doesn't have much experience in this arena.

    Your DD is OEM sans the 98% and 100% lines for a 2015 Z06. Strangely jacked way up there but not sure why its so high. It's not hurting anything, just strange logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCZ View Post
    I compared DD tables to my stock file. I didn't see any changes in off idle settings while the bottom three lines were increased over stock. I am lost when it comes to torque modeling..
    What I meant by that was I often have to lower the stock DD tables after perking things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHuggins View Post
    What I meant by that was I often have to lower the stock DD tables after perking things up.
    Got it.. Thank you.. Makes sense. Just wasn't sure how much what columns specifically..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ View Post
    Who made your Flex Fuel Virtual Torque tables? That is issue #1. Looks like whoever converted your car to Flex Fuel doesn't have much experience in this arena.

    Your DD is OEM sans the 98% and 100% lines for a 2015 Z06. Strangely jacked way up there but not sure why its so high. It's not hurting anything, just strange logic.
    I think E tune was a copy paste from a stock GM flex tune.

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    Modified is open ended, what's done to the vehicle as this is needed info? You can change your throttle body number from 4603 to 4800, 5000, or 5500 to get the feel you want (larger number slows things down), but that's more of a bandaid to a bigger issue I'm thinking. I don't change tq tables or DD tables typically unless a vehicle went from stock to a wildly totally different setup.
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    Car has added a Maggy 2300, flex fuel. 103 NWTB, 5" Intake and JMS BAP.