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    Possible to see Lambda target and actual lambda in vcm scanner?

    Stock LT4, is it possible to take a log and then see Lambda target and actual lambda in vcm scanner?
    I think I got one ok, I set it to EQ Cmd (λ) and can see data.
    But how to see the actual lambda?

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    You don't, unless your vehicle has WBO2s. Unless it's a CT5 Blackwing or Escalade-V, it doesn't have WBO2s.

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    It is a cts-v, guess I have to install a wideband then..
    Any prefered WBO2s?
    How do you tune without seeing the actual lambda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by etxridn View Post
    It is a cts-v, guess I have to install a wideband then..
    Any prefered WBO2s?
    How do you tune without seeing the actual lambda?
    Use the AEM 30-0334. It communicates through the cars canbus and you can read wideband data through HP Tuners.
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    Make sure it's calibrated in the scanner; IE: Make sure what you see on the wideband gauge matches what you see in the scanner. Otherwise, you'll be chasing your tail.
    Last edited by Clutch; 05-24-2023 at 04:38 PM.
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    Thank's. How do you tune without seeing the actual lambda, i guess everybody doesn't install wbo2.

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    LTFT+STFT error. That only works for the closed loop regions though. Need a WB to get everything done, without it you're only guessing and the open loop parts are where the engine is making enough power to actually hurt itself.

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    Yes, it is in the open loop i am wondering how all tuners are tuning just based on logs without wbo2?

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    When you figure out how to tune the open loop/PE without a wideband, go file a patent for that shit. You'll be rich and famous and revolutionize the world of tuning.

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    Haha, ok.
    I guess some hint would be the voltage of the o2 sensors?

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    Narrowbands are not linear, the voltage can only be used to tell stoich, richer than stoich (over 450mV), or leaner than stoich (less than 450mV). That's why all these systems go open loop and ignore the narrowbands in PE. Because they stop giving usable data anywhere except right at stoich.

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    You don't, unless your vehicle has WBO2s. Unless it's a CT5 Blackwing or Escalade-V, it doesn't have WBO2s.
    or LNF, they have factory installed wb too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindsquirrel View Post
    When you figure out how to tune the open loop/PE without a wideband, go file a patent for that shit. You'll be rich and famous and revolutionize the world of tuning.
    LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fst100 View Post
    or LNF, they have factory installed wb too!
    OP said LT4 without specifying vehicle type, so I only included the LT4 based vehicles that are known to have WBO2s.