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    Greg brought to my attention that HP Tuners does not yet support the Transmission Current Gear pids for at least one of the latest ECMs, so I updated the app to handle this scenario. But instead of just ignoring the transmission gear, I implemented an approach that automatically identifies the current gear based on the ratio of the vehicle speed to the engine rpm.

    It uses kernel density estimation on the ratios to assign a transmission gear. The attached graph is an example from a real log. Think of the density estimate as a continuous version of a histogram. This log contained the most 4th gear data since its peak is the highest, and the least 6th gear data since its peak is lowest. The vertical blue dotted lines mark the ratio values identified as a transmission gear peak, and the horizontal red dashed line is an adaptive floor value, below which any peaks are ignored. Each datalog record is then assigned to the transmission gear whose ratio is closest to it. There is spread around the peaks because tire rolling diameter and traction are not fixed values, plus transitions occur during gear shifts.
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    Result would be too long a vector

    Quote Originally Posted by CYN_CRVR View Post
    For anyone that runs into problems or gets results that don't look right, please upload the following to this thread so I can investigate and improve the app:
    - your HPL log file
    - your current DD table, copy-pasted with axes into a raw *.txt file

    Thanks,
    I'm having a hard time uploading anything but will continue to try.
    I've been trying the last few days to use this tool, but I keep getting an error "Result would be too long a vector."
    As far as I can tell, I'm following the procedures to the T.
    Any ideas?

    I'll upload as soon as I can figure out whatever issue is keeping me from uploading any files.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JtblckZ View Post
    I'm having a hard time uploading anything but will continue to try.
    I've been trying the last few days to use this tool, but I keep getting an error "Result would be too long a vector."
    As far as I can tell, I'm following the procedures to the T.
    Any ideas?

    I'll upload as soon as I can figure out whatever issue is keeping me from uploading any files.
    Thanks.
    I'll DM you my email address so you can send the files directly to me.

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    will this app work on the dd tables that use rpm as the x axis instead of vss??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadias48 View Post
    will this app work on the dd tables that use rpm as the x axis instead of vss??
    Not yet, but I do plan to add this functionality in the coming weeks, so stay tuned.

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    Just wanted to chime in and say that I've had great results with this tool. Thank you, Mike!

    Has anyone messed with the negative value multiplier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal Naughton Jr View Post
    Just wanted to chime in and say that I've had great results with this tool. Thank you, Mike!

    Has anyone messed with the negative value multiplier?
    I used a 20% multiplier on my decel values, and the change was not drastic. This is with a manual transmission, fwiw. You might also explore tweaking your torque request rate limits (see post 26 for the link to a good thread).

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    Pedal progression will affect deceleration more than anything. It helps me to think of the decel area of the pedal progression table like the relationship of the throttle follower table on the gen 4's. In other words a limiter for how much torque will be pulled during that rpm and pedal position. Just watch out lowering it too much because it can lead to some hard downshifting hits where it's trying to engine brake too much. You really have to work both the pedal progression and driver demand tables then use the rate tables to fine tune things if need be from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadias48 View Post
    will this app work on the dd tables that use rpm as the x axis instead of vss??
    Driver Demand Editor now also supports tables with RPM-referenced columns. Lmk how it works if anyone tries it.

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    Hello,

    I recently used your tool and found it to be amazing! However, when I downloaded the CSV file, I encountered some issues with the numbers being misaligned and difficult to copy. I managed to resolve this by using the Text to Columns feature in Excel.

    Thank you for the great tool!screen shot 4.png

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    Works Great! i have tried both manual and auto no issues on my end

    I didn't like web app because i tend to keep a lot of other tabs open so i just made small python tkinter app that makes its own window.

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    Hello,

    I recently used your tool and found it to be amazing! However, when I downloaded the CSV file, I encountered some issues with the numbers being misaligned and difficult to copy. I managed to resolve this by using the Text to Columns feature in Excel.

    Thank you for the great tool!Click image for larger version. Name: screen shot 4.png Views: 0 Size: 275.0 KB ID: 151554
    Select first column go to data and press text to columns, and set delimiter to comma after thats done, press ctrl+h and replace all quotes with nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moha62 View Post
    Hello,

    I recently used your tool and found it to be amazing! However, when I downloaded the CSV file, I encountered some issues with the numbers being misaligned and difficult to copy. I managed to resolve this by using the Text to Columns feature in Excel.

    Thank you for the great tool!screen shot 4.png
    Thanks for reporting. The export is a standard CSV format, so this sounds like a local systems settings issue. See if this link is helpful for you:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...a-b1abf7e60e30

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    Quote Originally Posted by vthex View Post
    Works Great! i have tried both manual and auto no issues on my end

    I didn't like web app because i tend to keep a lot of other tabs open so i just made small python tkinter app that makes its own window.
    Nice!

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    FYI - I just pushed a hot fix for a bug that affected multi-log uploads.

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    Just wanted to say I've had great success with your tool on several gen V vehicles, both manual and automatic. Love how it smooths out the DD table nicely. Had especially nice results on a E92 6.2/8 Speed truck. That factory DD table was rough looking. Maybe there was a reason, no idea still learning some stuff, but regardless, great throttle response changes to be had.

    Thanks for the great resource! Would love for an even more "extreme" option in the future though. Even going with the highest level, I found the tool will still pull DD below stock values in some places. Still, very pleased!

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    I can't believe I just now noticed this. I will be testing and report back most definitely.
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    I found this thread about a month ago, and admittedly I haven't tried it yet. I'm having problems downloading it locally and I'm 100% sure it's my computer illiteracy, so I'm going to try the app today and I'm curios as to what the "limitations" are?

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    The Google Drive link from the original post covers these details.

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    Would it be at all possible to go back to a slightly larger file size load capability? HPT only allows you to zoom in at 10 mins and then it jumps to 30 mins. Would be nice if it went in 10 min increments, but that just makes too much sense, right? The tool works up to about 25ish or 22ish mins worth of logging time. Only if it's possible please
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