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    F-250 6.2

    I am new to tuning this is the first vehicle I am trying to tune I set up a tune based on a raptor tune someone said would work but I want'd to put it on here and make sure it is ok before I put it on the truck.
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    Here you go.

    The idea is adjust driver demand, throttle characteristics, PE, and OP. On your revision, you're not supposed to copy everything literally. The rest is specific to your vehicle. Don't forget that P0605.
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    Ok thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    Here you go.

    The idea is adjust driver demand, throttle characteristics, PE, and OP. On your revision, you're not supposed to copy everything literally. The rest is specific to your vehicle. Don't forget that P0605.
    any chance you wanna take a look at mine and see if you have any recommendations for some more tweaks? it has long tube headers, s&B intake, ported heads with valve train upgrades, cam swapped and has cam phaser limiters. it also has 4.88 gears and a upgraded oil pump as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akley88 View Post
    any chance you wanna take a look at mine and see if you have any recommendations for some more tweaks? it has long tube headers, s&B intake, ported heads with valve train upgrades, cam swapped and has cam phaser limiters. it also has 4.88 gears and a upgraded oil pump as well.
    Livernois head/cam/spring kit? Same for phaser lockout? Need specifics please, but yes there's plenty to be done with that file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    Livernois head/cam/spring kit? Same for phaser lockout? Need specifics please, but yes there's plenty to be done with that file.
    yes it is the livernoise stage 3 cylinder head package with their cams, braces, upgraded valve springs, etc. I have their cam phaser limiters, which limit cams to 20* max movement. i also have the intake manifold port matched to the cylinder heads, S&B intake, Stainless works long tube headers, arp head studs, melling's standard flow high pressure billet oil pump. i only run 93 octane. the truck also has 4.88 gears.

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    Is it possible to put a ghost cam tune on these engines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79 Bronco View Post
    Is it possible to put a ghost cam tune on these engines?
    Yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akley88 View Post
    any chance you wanna take a look at mine and see if you have any recommendations for some more tweaks? it has long tube headers, s&B intake, ported heads with valve train upgrades, cam swapped and has cam phaser limiters. it also has 4.88 gears and a upgraded oil pump as well.
    You'll have to force each MP and tune them one at a time. Start with MP0.

    Tune the airflow models first. Before you can begin you'll have to adjust O2 sensor transport delay settings due to the longtube headers. This will make fuel trims on which corrections are based more accurate. Disable Flex Fuel, which forces the gasoline stoichiometric value, so that the inferred value doesn't throw things off.

    MAF is pretty straightforward. SD you'll need a MAP sensor and HPT Pro Features with adapter to use it. What makes this suck even harder is that the speed density calculator isn't available for your tune. Might open a ticket with HPT on that one. It's on the Raptor tunes, and there's no reason it shouldn't be there on yours. If not what you can do is use, for example, a 2011 Raptor file and make your edits there. Use the speed density calculator in that file, calculate coefficients, then copy-paste into yours.

    From there adjust spark and finally torque models.

    Rinse and repeat for the other MP's you assign, if any at all. Your phaser limiter makes it so that 40 degrees is max (2 crank revs vs 1 rotation of the cam). That means at the very minimum you need to disable or re-map MP4. Shouldn't need much beyond 24 degrees anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    You'll have to force each MP and tune them one at a time. Start with MP0.

    Tune the airflow models first. Before you can begin you'll have to adjust O2 sensor transport delay settings due to the longtube headers. This will make fuel trims on which corrections are based more accurate. Disable Flex Fuel, which forces the gasoline stoichiometric value, so that the inferred value doesn't throw things off.

    MAF is pretty straightforward. SD you'll need a MAP sensor and HPT Pro Features with adapter to use it. What makes this suck even harder is that the speed density calculator isn't available for your tune. Might open a ticket with HPT on that one. It's on the Raptor tunes, and there's no reason it shouldn't be there on yours. If not what you can do is use, for example, a 2011 Raptor file and make your edits there. Use the speed density calculator in that file, calculate coefficients, then copy-paste into yours.

    From there adjust spark and finally torque models.

    Rinse and repeat for the other MP's you assign, if any at all. Your phaser limiter makes it so that 40 degrees is max (2 crank revs vs 1 rotation of the cam). That means at the very minimum you need to disable or re-map MP4. Shouldn't need much beyond 24 degrees anyway.
    now i know why all the tuners i talk to except livernois dont want to tune for cam swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akley88 View Post
    now i know why all the tuners i talk to except livernois dont want to tune for cam swap.
    Have you talked to veeefour?
    https://forum.hptuners.com/member.php?41520-veeefour

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    i hadnt but i just sent him a message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    i think i scared him after passing the info along i was told by livernois. they wanted the truck in person for a min of 3 weeks.

    on a side note i was looking at the driver demand torque table and realized that was still stock even after upping power by almost 100 whp. based on what i had read on here there should have been some changes. i made some small % based changes. not sure if that was the correct way but the truck drives and shifts so much better now. i also tweaked the timing on the MP tables 0-5 since it is cam swapped and those were stock. have been monitoring KnockR on my ngauge and getting no positive knock. i am seeing negative knock retard up to 10-11 degrees. not sure if thats to much. my transmission is even running cooler by about 5-10 degrees when cruising. i even picked up some mileage which is amazing considering im on 37s with 4.88s. making those 2 changes seems to have made a world of difference in the truck. guess i should have gone to a ford specialist to begin.
    im pretty sure there might be more power to get out of the truck if the cam related tables are tweaked but im way outside my knowledge level on those.
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