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Thread: Road tuning filters for MAF

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    Road tuning filters for MAF

    Hello, im trying to get some filters going for road tuning my MAF, but i can't seem to get the result i expect... here's the current formula:
    ([50091.156] > 10) And ([50091.156.avg(500)] > 10) And ([50091.156.avg(-500)] > 10) And ([50091.156.slope(2000)] < 5) And ([50091.156.slope(-2000)] < 5) And ([50020.113] > 20) And ([6310] = 0 or [6310] = 2 or [6310] = 3 or [6310] = 4)

    ([50091.156] > 10) And ([50091.156.avg(500)] > 10) And ([50091.156.avg(-500)] > 10) And
    //Filter out anything under 10% throttle, and a window of 0,5sec before and after it goes over 10% (transients)

    ([50091.156.slope(2000)] < 5) And ([50091.156.slope(-2000)] < 5) And
    //Try and filter transients, if slope is under 5% in the last 2s and 2s after a transient don't log

    ([50020.113] > 20) And ([6310] = 0 or [6310] = 2 or [6310] = 3 or [6310] = 4)
    //Speed over 20km/h and the fuel trim cell not in decel (we really need a <> or NOT in the conditions)

    But i can't see a change in the logged data or the count on the cells in the histogram, can some explain why? Ive looked at a few posts here exsplaning but i exspected no data if filter did not work.
    Link to the threads ive read
    https://www.ctsvowners.com/threads/u...ng-maf.147996/
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...n-ve-afr-error
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...anation-how-to
    Last edited by tonn0297; 09-28-2024 at 01:32 PM.

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    So a tip to others that struggle with the filters, put it in a Math parameter and graph it, it will help alot rather than shooting in the dark... just note you need to close and open the log to update on math change
    found out my TPS parameter was wrong.

    So now the math looks like this:
    [50090.156.slope(3000)]<5 AND [50090.156.slope(-3000)]<5 AND [50091.156] > 10 And [50091.156.avg(5000)] > 10 And [50020.113] > 20

    the LOG on bottom graph shows the output of the parameter
    VCM_Scanner_gDBBzVfKEV.png
    Last edited by tonn0297; 09-29-2024 at 05:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    I think they're junkyard rebuilds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonn0297 View Post
    just note you need to close and open the log to update on math change
    No you don't. Just duplicate / delete the parameter in the graph setup.
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    Want a cunt of a response, then write a shit post. It's a simple formula; Short preamble + problem statement + attempted resolution + pertinent build specs + tune + succinct data log with correct channels

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    On a side but similar note. What would be the parameter to filter out DFCO and COT so you can leave that engaged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavetim View Post
    On a side but similar note. What would be the parameter to filter out DFCO and COT so you can leave that engaged
    im using fuel flow, so fuel flow needs to be over 1kg/h before i log, but i do not have COT so no clue

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    See https://www.hptuners.eu/help/vcm_edi..._fuel_loop.htm (also https://www.hptuners.eu/help/) for some info on fuel trims. Can use PID 6310 to filter out DFCO and other stuff. Log 6310 and see what it is during different driving states, and filter out what you don't want.

    COT will change the EQ Ratio when active; could filter out all data when EQ Ratio [50118.238] doesn't = 1.000, for example.

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    Not sure about the filters. I just shut DFCO and COT off. When done tuning I turn them back on.
    I would thing the best way to answer is if someone wants to share a Layout

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    Filter strings aren't universal, the PIDs change from controller to controller. Just build them based on what you want included or not and using the specific PIDs you have available. This is why there isn't a one size fits all list of filters you can just copy and paste.
    Quote Originally Posted by SiriusC1024 View Post
    I think they're junkyard rebuilds.