What is the 'torque' figure?

[sfogg]

In some of the A4 transmissions settings there is a torque field on the maps ranging from 0 to 640. What is this number and how is it calculated? Would it be something like a calculated load?

Shawn

[The_Highlander]

It is a PID that the PCM has and its for the TQ management function...

Setting it to 640 will almost eliminate torque management... it will destroy your tranny probably.

[sfogg]

The torque I'm talking about isn't a map setting to change, it is an axis of the grid itself as part of the lookup table.

For example in the shift time it bases the shift time on the gear shift occuring against the 'torque' setting.

Ditto the pressure settings.

Also what defines 'Normal' vs. 'performance' maps for the A4? Is that normal vs. tow mode or something else?

Shawn

[The_Highlander]

I know its not a table.. its a single unit..its a constant...

The tables are changed via a toggle switch. If you have the switch you can select them.

The other should be the kick down.

[sfogg]

If it is a constant then why is it the x-axis for the following table (among others)?

http://ackthud.com/shawnfogg/pics/temp/torque.JPG

Would the switch be the tow mode? I assume it would be since that does change the shift points.

Shawn

[Casey]

The AXIS you are referring to is the amount of engine torque in foot lbs.

This is a load value calculated by the VCM.


Older PCMS used %TPS and MPH for the trans pressure and shift time. It is now based on the calculated torque value.





Ken

[sfogg]

Ken,

"The AXIS you are referring to is the amount of engine torque in foot lbs.

This is a load value calculated by the VCM. "

Thanks. That was what I thought it had to be.

I'm guessing it is calculated by something like the Max Torque value (in Spark Retard) divided by (100/VE) or something along those lines?

Shawn

[marc_w]

It is a PID that the PCM has and its for the TQ management function...

Setting it to 640 will almost eliminate torque management... it will destroy your tranny probably.

Is this the variable in the Engine, Torque Management area?

[jimmyblue]

Ther are (at least) two Torque PIDs. There is the
Engine Torque (straight crank torque) and the
Transmission Torque (which tries to figure in some
converter torque multiplication on A4s). The latter I
believe is the index for the transmission TM functions
while the Engine one would be for the engine TM,
spark control, etc. axes. I think the PIDs are pretty
right, now, and you could / should log these with the
spark / cylAir / whatever pertains, to see where you
are operating in the maps you might be thinking of
changing.