Stock plugs on LNF+high boost+meth. picslol

[decipha]

this went off topic quick

[oldskool]

The trigger wheel can be removed. And while, correct, it's not a 7x, it is a readable trigger with the correct sensor.

1 -- there is nothing under there except counter balance. Pics available:

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...47867&t=447867

2 -- you said in the other thread what was under there would play with the Jbody ecotec ECU - wrong in so many ways. Even if it was another reluctor ring under the bolted on one - if it's not 7x, its not playing with the Jbody ecu.

I ask you again, why would you start such a rumor?

[Area47]

Then someone needs to educate himself before trying to educate others. For the same given set up, yes, methanol will cool the intake charge, the burn, and thus the EGTs. BUT, one of the great benefits of meth is knock supression, allowing more timing. What happens when you add more timing? A longer burn. The longer the burn, the hotter the cylinder charge temps get. Therefor, an increase in EGT happens.

are you fucking high?

[dont_blink]

are you fucking high?

I keep fixing your tunes, yet you keep tuning people. When are you going to get a fucking clue?

[oldskool]

Don't_blink, i'm not trying to be the judge jury and executioner, but why did you make the false statement about the crank trigger on the LE5/LSJ?

[Area47]

I keep fixing your tunes, yet you keep tuning people. When are you going to get a fucking clue?

you keep beating that same old dead horse. i have asked you to prove it over and over again.

yet you can't do it.

odd.

you also saying that increasing timing increases egts made me laugh, and yet you still try to insult me. you don't have a clue how it all works apparently.

there are two places i do my tuning junior. canada. port perry ontario to be exact.

the next place is kansas city. i have not done shit outside of these two area's in a year. so keep throwing that falsified information around.

you want to play the game of who knows more about how timing has a direct effect on egt's. go for it. you will lose.

[Jaxon]

Ive only heard good things about Areas tuning, a few people from STL have made the voyage to him to get tuned and had ruined some locals afterwards.

[Witt]

Then someone needs to educate himself before trying to educate others. For the same given set up, yes, methanol will cool the intake charge, the burn, and thus the EGTs. BUT, one of the great benefits of meth is knock supression, allowing more timing. What happens when you add more timing? A longer burn. The longer the burn, the hotter the cylinder charge temps get. Therefor, an increase in EGT happens.

You have that completely backwards. Increase in spark advance will cause EGTs to drop.

Ironic first sentence you posted there.

[imphat0260]

Ironic first sentence you posted there.

Ouch!

[Area47]

You have that completely backwards. Increase in spark advance will cause EGTs to drop.

Ironic first sentence you posted there.

[darkmanx]

lulz hahaha

[06black]

this is funny shit.

EGT's rise while moving the spark event further from the exhaust valve opening?

nope......

[black06g85]

lolz.......

[dont_blink]

You have that completely backwards. Increase in spark advance will cause EGTs to drop.

Ironic first sentence you posted there.

I'd really like to see you explain your way out of that one. The sooner the mixture ignities (spark being advanced), the longer and fuller it burns. This usually results in more power. Do you really think that doesn't cause higher combustion temps? If you don't, then I suggest you do some actual EGT monitoring and take an entry level thermo course and learn some things about energy. And Area, next time you put 80lb injectors in a car, you should actually adjust the dead time so the car doesn't have to idle at 1100rpm. I bet you can pinpoint the car(s) you did that on.

[dont_blink]

Ive only heard good things about Areas tuning, a few people from STL have made the voyage to him to get tuned and had ruined some locals afterwards.

Well between him and WickedSS, I'm not sure who is worse.

[Area47]

I'd really like to see you explain your way out of that one. The sooner the mixture ignities (spark being advanced), the longer and fuller it burns. This usually results in more power. Do you really think that doesn't cause higher combustion temps? If you don't, then I suggest you do some actual EGT monitoring and take an entry level thermo course and learn some things about energy. And Area, next time you put 80lb injectors in a car, you should actually adjust the dead time so the car doesn't have to idle at 1100rpm. I bet you can pinpoint the car(s) you did that on.

i have never put 80lb injectors in a car. nor do i have a map for one with 80lb injectors. please. keep trying.

[BLAZIN07SS]

I'd really like to see you explain your way out of that one. The sooner the mixture ignities (spark being advanced), the longer and fuller it burns. This usually results in more power. Do you really think that doesn't cause higher combustion temps? If you don't, then I suggest you do some actual EGT monitoring and take an entry level thermo course and learn some things about energy. And Area, next time you put 80lb injectors in a car, you should actually adjust the dead time so the car doesn't have to idle at 1100rpm. I bet you can pinpoint the car(s) you did that on.

Hint: You are confusing combustion chamber temps with exhaust gas temps.

[Witt]

I'd really like to see you explain your way out of that one. The sooner the mixture ignities (spark being advanced), the longer and fuller it burns. This usually results in more power. Do you really think that doesn't cause higher combustion temps? If you don't, then I suggest you do some actual EGT monitoring and take an entry level thermo course and learn some things about energy. And Area, next time you put 80lb injectors in a car, you should actually adjust the dead time so the car doesn't have to idle at 1100rpm. I bet you can pinpoint the car(s) you did that on.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...8&postcount=26

[BriantheLion26]

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpo...8&postcount=26

BOOM. Headshot.

[Witt]

Hint: You are confusing combustion chamber temps with exhaust gas temps.

Correct. What our inexperienced gentleman above is confusing is the difference between combustion chamber temperature and exhaust gas temperature. In the two graphs I'm reposting that were originally in the threads I quoted is the effect on timing advance in both cylinder pressure and temperature as well as the time the gas leaves the combustion chamber, passes over open exhaust valves and is then measured as EGT.

Engine one shows reduced ignition timing advance, reduced cylinder pressure, reduced cylinder temperature and higher exhaust gas temperature compared to engine two.

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