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    so when you going to beta for the ecos? im still interested....for the time being. no offense or anything but this has taken FOREVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners
    No, it requires the new interface.
    The LSJ Ecotec 2.0L SuperCharged engine with the P12 PCM is VPW. No CAN.

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    Correct, but the 4cyl PCM's do things a little differnetly than the LS1 style PCM's that causes them to require the new interface.

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    Any update yet on availability and models supported?

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    I need help...My DD just died out on me, and now I have to make a purchasing decision, this week. I'm looking at going with either the CobaltSS, or the SRT4, however, my decision on which one to buy will be greatly influenced on if HPtuners will be providing support for either vehicle. I prefer the looks of the Cobalt over the Neon, but the aftermarket support is much greater with the SRT4. So what's the verdict...are there any plans to offer support to either of these vehicles? I don't need to have a release date. I just want to make sure that whatever I buy, you guys will be supporting in the near future.

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    The Cobalt is definitely on our list, not sure about the SRT4.
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    Ahhh man the Cobalt scored low I would have voted if I knew. Anyway the Suite looks amazing and is exactly what I was looking for in my car. So what is the line up for the cobalt and how long does it usually take for you guys to design this program for a specific car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastFieros
    The LSJ Ecotec 2.0L SuperCharged engine with the P12 PCM is VPW. No CAN.

    Loyde
    I have ONE post to this forum? Whats up with that?

    Anyway, I think I have read that the 06 Cobalt SS has some CAN in it. The 04 Ion, and 05 Ion/Cobalt do not have CAN however.

    So, looks like 2.0 hardware is my future...

    Thanks HPT...

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    So is the 05/06 cobalt on the list?
    REalisicly this year????
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    So is the 05/06 cobalt on the list?
    REalisicly this year????
    cobalt = yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastFieros
    Anyway, I think I have read that the 06 Cobalt SS has some CAN in it. The 04 Ion, and 05 Ion/Cobalt do not have CAN however.
    Loyde
    The LSJ's P12 PCM is primarily J1850 VPW (Class 2) as you state, for primarily the scan tool and most importantly (obviously) the service programming interface. But the DWCAN interface still exists at C1 terminals 1 and 2 (you can confirm this by measuring 120ohms between C1 pins 1 and 2)

    The LSJ Cobalt began utilizing DWCAN from the onset of it's 2005 release. This was neccessary for Theft Deterrant security system's "fuel enable" handshake. This was facilitated by the BCM in 2005 (Passlock) BUT since 2006 Cobalt models now use PassKey 3+ the fuel enable handshake is via a dedicated PK3 Theft Deterrant Module present on the GM Lan Low Speed bus (SW CAN) and gateway'd by the BCM.

    Only the P12 used in the Saturn Redline has remained entirely (for ALL bus traffic) on Class 2 VPW from 2004 thru 2006.

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    I really really really need SRT4 support when the dodge stuff is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners
    cobalt = yes
    WooHoo! I will be first in line once it is released. Then I can finally start doing some mods to the Misses 06 SS/SC. Any idea if these will be released before the GM stage kits(~1st quarter)?
    I presume that it will be mandantory to upgrade to the USB 2.1 to facilitate this support though, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKID
    I presume that it will be mandantory to upgrade to the USB 2.1 to facilitate this support though, correct?
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    Please try and put some love in for the Redline crowd. It is very trying to have a car that you can only do a limited amount to because of fueling issues. Piggybacks are way to sketchy for us. Nobody has come up with a good way of adding fuel. Most are waiting on GM and with me being a j-body fellow know exactly how that goes. The 2.4 guyz had to wait on the supercharger for a number of years. Now i see the same thing happening. Please give us some help.

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    The LSJ platform would obviously include the redline

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    I hope the 2.4 tuning system comes out soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
    The LSJ platform would obviously include the redline
    We're never comfortable with that until someone tells us directly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp00ner
    We're never comfortable with that until someone tells us directly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp00ner
    We're never comfortable with that until someone tells us directly!

    The redline smells spooner.

    Hurry up with the LSJ HPtuners !!