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    1:1 mix 93:e85 on LNF

    What does your timing tables look like? what seems to be the limit/sweet spot for timing? I'm currently running this fuel mixture and I'm loving it. I'm running a max of 18* of timing.

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    A lot more than that, I max out at 26* with no KR. Ramp up the midrange to 25* by 3500 rpm or so.

    I've posted this before, it's no secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iam Broke View Post
    A lot more than that, I max out at 26* with no KR. Ramp up the midrange to 25* by 3500 rpm or so.

    I've posted this before, it's no secret.

    Thank you. that's exactly what i was looking for

    I also noticed you would run a little more than a 1:1 mix at times. was that much timing done with a 1:1 mix or was it e70?

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    Both. That's as far as I've pushed it for the sake of the bearings. I think ZZP has gone higher.
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    Both. That's as far as I've pushed it for the sake of the bearings. I think ZZP has gone higher.
    I can't wait to start logging my car! i'll probably start this week again. Thanks again for replying

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    Ease into that timing map, maybe start 4-5* less. That's only one of them but >100% they are all 4 the same on my tune.
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    Well my car seems to be getting some knock. I can't get it to be above 20 deg without getting knock. Can someone please tell me what the opt a/f is for this gas mixture?

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    0.88 ~ 0.89 PE Lambda
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    Winter formula of eth will probally be less than e85. I know it can be as low as e70 in areas and such.

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    I'm doing 2:1 for the winter since the gasoline prices went up so much, Would be E60, looks closer to E55 by the fuel trims. Running -3.1 currently but I only added 10.5 gals at the last fill. Still starting fine in the cold. BTW, E10 87 mixed with the E85 and no KR with IAT2's in the 30's. Same timing tables, stock plugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iam Broke View Post
    0.88 ~ 0.89 PE Lambda
    Thanks for the response that's where I have it set.

    I wish I knew if I was using e70 or e85. Is there anyway I could find out?
    My car maxed out at 20 deg timing up top.

    My only mods are Hahn intake, injen cp, and cat-less dp. My 60-100 was 5.5 secs. I would like to be in the high 4sec 60-100. Is there any other necessary mods I have to do to get what i'm aiming for or can I get there just from tuning?

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    TOON! What kind of boost are you seeing? 23-24 psi is where I am before it starts to taper off.

    I suspect your fuel trims (STFT's) may be causing your KR with the Hahn intake, it takes a bit of work.

    Post a log when you can.

    You will have to search for testing methods, there are test kits available for lower percentages, but poor man's methods do exist.
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    I noticed my car gets up to 22-23 psi and then drops down to 20-21 psi. But I do see it stay at the lower range for most of my pulls. I will make another log hopefully tonight so I can post it on here

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    Our turbo tapers off above 4k rpm, that's normal. I'd say it's fuel trims causing your KR if I had to guess.
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