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    Potential Tuner vroom_vroom's Avatar
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    need some help with fuel trims

    so i have been reading a lot about using the hp tuner and tuning in general, i have even pick up dan maslics book but still kinda lost (mathematically challenged) i am wanting to tune a ls4 grand prixs fuel trims as it is running lean due to a cai. im am waning some one to give me some baby steps to understand how to do this because if i cant grasp the consept i should just give the $$$$ to my local over priced tuner
    man your car must be fast cauz you where hauling ass when i passed you in my ls4 gxp

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    Make sure it's not something mechanically wrong before you starting trying to tune it out. A dirty or old MAF will cause a lean condition as will a poor designed intake that provides turbulent airflow across the MAF sensor.
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    Also make sure all the couplers are tight and no unmetered air is entering the system.

    Is it setting any codes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGA2B View Post
    Also make sure all the couplers are tight and no unmetered air is entering the system.

    Is it setting any codes?
    Totally, an air leak into the engine downstream of the MAF will cause a lean condition.
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    yea its throwing a lean code the ls4 was a notoriously lean tune from the factory to begin with, there is no leaks in my intake the winter blend gas is what got me it will throw it a couple times a week never had the problem untill the gas changed ( i buy branded gas so its not bad)
    man your car must be fast cauz you where hauling ass when i passed you in my ls4 gxp

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    Quote Originally Posted by vroom_vroom View Post
    yea its throwing a lean code the ls4 was a notoriously lean tune from the factory to begin with, there is no leaks in my intake the winter blend gas is what got me it will throw it a couple times a week never had the problem untill the gas changed ( i buy branded gas so its not bad)
    if you really think its the winter blend fuel find out if you get e10 in the winter but not the rest of the year in your area.

    if you get e10 change stoich to reflect e10 in your tune , e10 is 14.1 stoich not the 14.7ish value that would be in the tune for straight gasoline
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    Are you able to post a idle/crusing/WOT scan and a tune?
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    You should start with a log session to see how the fuel trims look like.