"The same as Injector Dynamics"

[mowton]

I'm really curious why people haven't been using the bosch 160's.... They are LS1 size and fitment and can be had reasonable and are also a factory bosch part number. Thats what I'm running in my setup anyhow.

We have used the Bosch 127's in an E85/FI LS3/E38 PCM setup with no issues at all. Data was provided and setup dialed in perfectly with a standard scaled tune. Made over 900HP and idle/driveability were perfect.

Ed M

[LSxpwrdZ]

I don't have a problem with either injector manufacture personally. I've used FIC injectors with complete success and I've used ID's injectors with success. In the end both injectors work for me.

It's not as difficult to generate data as some realize either. Time consuming yes but hard not at all if you have a programmable micro controller, lab grade voltage regulator and a nice gram scale or flow meter.

[DSteck]

You're absolutely right in that its mostly time consuming.

I'll just never trust somebody who insisted that the characterization doesn't change after modifying.

[eficalibrator]

You're absolutely right in that its (ed: injector characterization activities) mostly time consuming.

I'll just never trust somebody who insisted that the characterization doesn't change after modifying.

I think this may be the most concise, accurate summary of this entire thread!

[NICKY BOY]

You're absolutely right in that its mostly time consuming.

I'll just never trust somebody who insisted that the characterization doesn't change after modifying.

Yeah OK true but none of that will matter soon with Bosch releasing their new 1200 1400 1600 and 2000 in March. No more cut tips or drilling needed.

[eficalibrator]

Yeah OK true but none of that will matter soon with Bosch releasing their new 1200 1400 1600 and 2000 in March. No more cut tips or drilling needed.

I will agree that factory released injectors (as opposed to hand-modified units) should be a good thing. What we're missing here is still the same thing: complete characterization data. How many existing Bosch Motorsport injectors do we currently have complete GM data for at the moment? Not too many...

[NICKY BOY]

I will agree that factory released injectors (as opposed to hand-modified units) should be a good thing. What we're missing here is still the same thing: complete characterization data. How many existing Bosch Motorsport injectors do we currently have complete GM data for at the moment? Not too many...

true but with production of multiple sizes that makes me think that they will make data available. my .02

[DSteck]

true but with production of multiple sizes that makes me think that they will make data available. my .02

You'd think that.

Fact is, it doesn't exist. Those "new" Bosch 105s are just factory Polaris 2-stroke snow mobile injectors meant for 3 bar that have been out for years. They won't even think about opening at 5 bar without some serious voltage. The bigger Bosch piece is an unstable piece of crap.

Bosch is making one big injector that will actually be worth it. Stay tuned.

[armcclure]

yes i know this is an old thread. But......

Bosch is making one big injector that will actually be worth it. Stay tuned.

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[JakeFusion]

I know this is old as hell, but what about FID? How do they stack up as a newer brand for big, redrilled injectors?