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    Is it possible to hit "RESET" and eliminate the last two pages of chatter?

    joecar, I didn't understand your last post.

    Are you saying that the spreadsheet I reference in my article was originally created by you?

    Or is a modified version of something created by you?

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    Those things I mentioned I used in my LSx-to-LS1 interpolation spreadsheets sometime in 2010 (the yellow/blue backgrounds on specific cells, the red/green labels in the upper left above each table, the use of the term LS1B)...

    i.e. the data is not mine, the transposing is not mine, but the table coloring/look/feel are certainly mine...

    (my data was the stock LS9/LS3/LS7/L92/L76 injector tables interpolated to fit the LS1 tables using EFILive's paste-with-labels).
    Last edited by joecar; 08-31-2012 at 10:32 AM.

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    PM me your email address. I'll email you the stuff I was referring to. There are multiple formats of the funny data. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Those things I mentioned I used in my LSx-to-LS1 interpolation spreadsheets sometime in 2010 (the yellow/blue backgrounds on specific cells, the red/green labels in the upper left above each table, the use of the term LS1B)...

    i.e. the data is not mine, the transposing is not mine, but the table coloring/look/feel are certainly mine...

    (my data was the stock LS9/LS3/LS7/L92/L76 injector tables interpolated to fit the LS1 tables using EFILive's paste-with-labels).
    Thanks for chiming in joecar.

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    Ok?
    My setup is a 356ci with a 260/268 (212/218 at .050 lift) duration cam with aluminium corvette heads and flat top pistons running 11.3 comp. ratio. with tuned port injection and vortec crank pick up and dizzy running a 411 pcm and 60lb bosch injectors, 1.6 ratio roller rockers. For transmission its a 4l65e built with the monster in a box mega ss kit. All in a 92 chevy ext cab 4x4 pickup with a 98 cab now installed with a third door! running only e85

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    I gave my interpolation files to various people that asked me for them (and Jon @ FIC was one of those various people)...

    attached is one of my four inteprolation spreadsheet files, look at tab B3701, you will see the formatting style elements I mentioned above, which are seen in the article linked in post #1 above... that article also shows that the spreadsheet properties lists yawpower as being the author of the spreadsheet... I'm flattered that my formatting was borrowed.

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    You know, it is highly probable for two independent parties to perform similar tests on the same injector model to arrive at the same values/curves/surfaces (yes, even scaled)... the laws of physics are the same for all observers...

    ( Jon @ FIC has a sizeable investment in test equipment, why would he not use it...? )

    I think a very great deal is being made about nothing (Paul, look at all the effort you put into creating that article...);

    one of the people I had given my LS9/LS7/LS3 interpolation spreadsheets pointed me to your article and to this thread, and told me I would find it interesting since he recognized my formatting (no, it wasn't Jon @ FIC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    You know, it is highly probable for two independent parties to perform similar tests on the same injector model to arrive at the same values/curves/surfaces (yes, even scaled)... the laws of physics are the same for all observers...
    As I stated clearly in my article, it is not highly probable for someone to test an entirely different injector, and arrive at 561 data points that scale by the same value to 5 significant digits.

    In fact, it is as close to impossible as anything I could present, including the example I offered in the article.

    To claim that it is highly probable requires either a severe misunderstanding, or an unwillingness to accept the facts.
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    The spread sheet with "your formatting" is not the one that has Yawpower as the original author. It's from a different Excel file.

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    I think anybody does.


    Wait! Hold on a second... there's two of them??!! Now I'm sure there is God since after creating one he said "screw it, we need another!"


    Anyways... this is pretty bad. Some folks just have no shame.

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    What I don't understand is why can't places like FIC or Injector Dynamics buy injectors directly from bosch in their desired style and flow rates instead of having to have to modify a 117 injector. Is it a cost issue. Sure the 280158117 injector is cheap as Ford use it in their GT500 but the amount of time spent modifying the injector would be a PIA. Just order 1000 or 10000 injectors from Bosch in desired specs and be done with it.

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    Not quite the same than ID for these:

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...injectors.html

    Well, isn't it the time to Bosch to provide solution to the market. Anyone tried these yet? Data available?

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    Paul I know your going to PRI. Dave are you?
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    Nope. Things didn't pan out this year. :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pekka_Perkeles View Post
    Not quite the same than ID for these:

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...injectors.html

    Well, isn't it the time to Bosch to provide solution to the market. Anyone tried these yet? Data available?
    Straight from Bosch, non-modified. I'm certain that ID and FIC have data on these already.
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    I'm really curious why people haven't been using the bosch 160's.... They are LS1 size and fitment and can be had reasonable and are also a factory bosch part number. Thats what I'm running in my setup anyhow.
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    Data.

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    Data shouldn't hold someone back though... I can see re-drilled injectors that are all over the place causing issues but a good matched injector straight from Bosch not as much trouble. But ultimately with a good injector, a "decent" tuner can work around the short pulse and voltage offset information to get a car running pretty healthy.
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    Yes, but I like systems with more equations than variables. It makes them definitively solvable.

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    Quick question for a ls2 top in 390 cu in shooting for 1000 hp with e85?

    ID 1000s?
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