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    2014 Vette Auto - They still dont get(100%) of it!

    The last vette was just about balanced right.. In full AUTO you could nail the throttle from a slight roll, it would smoke 1st gear but usually would hang 1st just long enough at redline for the car to catch up to the wheelspeed. It would just GO, then shift to 2nd when up to actual speed so there was no bog going into 2nd.

    The new Vette has about 30hp more, so now what happens is you nail it from a dig, and it burns through 1st so fast, shows 60mph or whatever, it just appears in 2nd gear since it shifts so DAMN fast, Im only moving 45mph, and is now in 2nd gear, so naturally tires are hot has hell, and grab, and it bogs down to 3800rpm or whatever in 2nd gear and stays there... bogging... as I look dumb... EVERY TIME!! haha

    So GM, why not just look at the front wheel speed for shifting. Think about it. At least have an option... Jeez. It would even work during a massive doughnut. See's wheel speed going negative... just stay in first!! The only thing that would go is Tires, not a trans.

    I will give them credit though.. at least it doesnt actually go back into 1st gear then right back into second!! haha

    It might even work during a wheelie.. it will keep RPM at redline... but wont let off... the let off is what slams the front down so hard...
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    sounds like your vetter will live a long and healthy life with you as a driver, lol.

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    well, not to knock your theory, but thats why gm has spent insane amounts of money on traction control. overpowering the tires is not accelerating at the fastest rate. While your spinning your tires with traction control off, the other guy has pulled off. Even michael Schumacher who is one of the best drivers that ever lived said nobody can control a car better than traction control. . No car is designed to accelerate like that, unless your drifting, which is a whole other discussion. Better tires, and suspension upgrades would better suit the needs of the car vs. letting the rear tires rip. If your theory is letting the tires rip to keep the motor in the power band, than a torque converter would be better suited. just my $.02
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    and torque converter would be cheaper in the end run than all those torched tires
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbray01 View Post
    well, not to knock your theory, but thats why gm has spent insane amounts of money on traction control. overpowering the tires is not accelerating at the fastest rate. While your spinning your tires with traction control off, the other guy has pulled off. Even michael Schumacher who is one of the best drivers that ever lived said nobody can control a car better than traction control. . No car is designed to accelerate like that, unless your drifting, which is a whole other discussion. Better tires, and suspension upgrades would better suit the needs of the car vs. letting the rear tires rip. If your theory is letting the tires rip to keep the motor in the power band, than a torque converter would be better suited. just my $.02
    I'm not talking about traction control. There's a reason you can turn it off. I haven't seen any 1/4 mile results showing traction control improves times unless your a really bad driver. Michael Schumacher's an idiot if he said that and actually means it. My Camaro had "Launch Control". That was a joke!! haha.

    My theory was to use the front wheel speed for shifting instead of the back to keep it from bogging down so bad on the roast in 1st and shift to 2nd. Nothing else. Go drive one. Turn traction conrol off. Stop at a light, when it turns green, floor it. You'll see what I'm talking about. Easy fix really.
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    you dont seem to get the point of sports tires, traction control, or any of that..

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    Some guys actually like doing burnouts. Leaving car shows. aka showing off. I am sure you guys never did that? They don't care about 60ft or 1/4 mile times. Having fun.

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    If you don't want to be a driver get an all wheel drive training wheel car. That way any girl(not knocking many good women drivers), 16 yr old or maybe a 70 year old will have the same 60 ft. :>)