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    Convert Diablo CMR Tune to HP Tuner

    Is there a way to pull the active diablo tune out of the ECU in effort to load it into the the HP Tuner? We have a lot of hours into the existing tune. I do not want to start from scratch. Thanks!

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    if the tune is loaded into the ecu, then when you pull the file from your ecu with hp tuners, that is the file that you will pull. If it is still loaded in the diablo tuner but not ecu, you have to load it into the ecu first, then pull it with hp tuners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbray01 View Post
    if the tune is loaded into the ecu, then when you pull the file from your ecu with hp tuners, that is the file that you will pull. If it is still loaded in the diablo tuner but not ecu, you have to load it into the ecu first, then pull it with hp tuners.

    Excellent! It is loaded into the ecu.

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    As an extra to this question, if that person were to then make some changes with the hptuners and load that into the ecu, would they then still be able to make changes with the diablo or would it be locked out?
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    1/4 mile: 12.4@110mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siciliano15 View Post
    As an extra to this question, if that person were to then make some changes with the hptuners and load that into the ecu, would they then still be able to make changes with the diablo or would it be locked out?
    Still can make changes, though I am not sure why you wouldn't just stick with HP Tuners. most of the handheld adjustability are very limited and not precise.

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    Basically cause my tuner that does my more complicated tuning for the cam and stuff uses diablo but there are certain minor parameters he cant adjust that i want to change and the HPTuners is capable of doing it so thats why I wanted to make sure that before I make a change with the HPTuners that if i ever change cams or do any other mods my tuner will still be able to send me an updated tune on the Diablo and not be locked out or anything.
    2002 Dodge Dakota 5.9 R/T reg cab
    Heads/Cam/Stall/Suspension/Tires/170stat
    365rwhp & 365ft-lbs
    1/4 mile: 12.4@110mph

    1998 Pontiac TransAm Ws6
    Heads/Cam/Stall/Suspension/Tires/160stat
    422rwhp & 400ft-lbs
    1/4 mile: 11.6@116mph

    2006 Chrysler 300c Srt8
    Whipple 6.5psi/HHP Stage 2 Heads-Cam/Borla/88mmTB/180stat
    580rwhp & 490ft-lbs
    never drag raced

    2009 Dodge Viper
    Mopar Performance Race Exhaust & PCM

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    I see, you'll be good but here's what you should do. I would read out the tune from your PCM after loading the Diablo tune with your HP Tuners, then return your PCM to stock via the Diablo, then reload the read out tune from HP Tuners and make your changes. When and if you need a tune tweak or change, take a stock backup if your PCM using the Diablo and send that as the starting point for your tuner. This will avoid him sending you a tune that deletes your small changes (if that's what you want).

    Personally I would question him as to why he isn't using HP Tuners yet, without trans control he's giving you a half tune, IMO

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    That sounds like a good idea. Didnt realize he had no control over the transmission with diablo. i was wondering why it seemed like he never made any changes to firm up the shifts or anything like that. thanks for the input.
    2002 Dodge Dakota 5.9 R/T reg cab
    Heads/Cam/Stall/Suspension/Tires/170stat
    365rwhp & 365ft-lbs
    1/4 mile: 12.4@110mph

    1998 Pontiac TransAm Ws6
    Heads/Cam/Stall/Suspension/Tires/160stat
    422rwhp & 400ft-lbs
    1/4 mile: 11.6@116mph

    2006 Chrysler 300c Srt8
    Whipple 6.5psi/HHP Stage 2 Heads-Cam/Borla/88mmTB/180stat
    580rwhp & 490ft-lbs
    never drag raced

    2009 Dodge Viper
    Mopar Performance Race Exhaust & PCM

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    can u post the dsp file you pulled from pcm if you dont mind? want to compare to my caliber srt 20psi tune

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    I was wondering if you could load custom tunes on the Diablo tuner with hp tuning software? Im thinking of getting the handheld for now and when I start doing other modifications, I'll step up the the hp software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riding2death View Post
    I was wondering if you could load custom tunes on the Diablo tuner with hp tuning software? Im thinking of getting the handheld for now and when I start doing other modifications, I'll step up the the hp software.
    You can't use HPT to load a tune to Diablo handheld, in a way you can by having a Diablo unmarried, then load a tune with HPT, then marry the Diablo having it think the loaded HPT tune is the stock tune. But...why? I can understand the threadstarter having a CMR tune with lots of time invested, I've done the same when switching customers over, pulled the tune with HPT, saved it, then unmarried the Diablo box but dumping stock tune back in, read the stock file with HPT, save it. Then just dump in the CMR tune with HPT-make changes or whatever. Done. Then you have a stock and tuned file in HPT and the customer can sell their Diablo as it's no longer married.

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    We have tried to marry an unmarried Diablo to a car with an hpt tune in it and it doesn't work.
    Maybe sometimes it does? We haven't seen it.

    You can convert an hpt tune to a Diablo tune by hand using Excel and math flipping and converting tables but it's very time consuming.
    And sometimes it barfs.

    This assumes you have CMR tuning software.

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    ^^^ To clarify this - diablo will only load tunes to a stock ECU - a built in safety to keep you from trying to tune over another tune I believe? It actually requires you to load an updated stock file before it will load...

    To simplify things for you although it will be time consuming you will have to return to stock, load your other tuners tune then read back out and modify everytime with hpt...
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    Ok going back in time here. I sold my DiabloSport to get my HPT. I still have my tunes for the DS on my laptop but did not get to read any from the vehicle since I had to sell the DS to get HPT. Is there any way copy or convert the info from the DS file to a HPT file?

    Thanks

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    Is the DS tune still in the car or did you unmarry it before sale?

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    be careful with certain years i think 2013-2014 if the car was diablo tuned the and you pull the file and rewrite with changes,

    always recommend returning to stock, witech update to the pcm for the latest OS then use your HPT
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    This is the best and most trouble free way to convert to HPT. Pull the Diablo file and save. Return to Stock with handheld, sell that junk. Update with Witech if you have it. Read and Save stock Calibration file. Open stock file, open Diablo file as compare. Go to compare tab and Select View comparison log, right click on top item in list and copy over all differences. Presto you now have Diablo Tune in HP format on latest Calibration save with a new file name and flash computer. Tune away on the transmission tables that you could not access in Diablo and enjoy all the time you saved from the crappy Diablo handheld and buggy software.

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    Holly ****, This is going to show my newbieness with HPTuners, but I've literally been going in and copying and pasting every individual table that I change. Figuring out that I can use the compare log just rocked my world! Thank you! This make HPTuners way way faster for me. And to think I've done about 15 trucks like this.

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    unmarried it

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    How accurate is the Read file from hptuners when reading a CMR tune on a hellcat. When I read the file the transmission torque management section is completely disabled but when talking to tuner he says that it's enabled in order not to burn transmission up.