Shift Ramp Torque - Mopar TCM - Adaptive?

[CrucialVelocity]

Below are a couple screenshots of the Shift Ramp Torque values read from my Mopar 6.1 TCM

The first is what I pulled from the car, the second is what I'm running now.

Some background...

I have been using an add-on shift modifier similar to the Tranzformer, a product called a VTCM. This raises line pressure for firmer shifts, but I think it has caused what I am seeing here... the TCM trying to bring the firmness back down. With the add-on VTCM removed, my 2-3 shift was taking so long, the car was hitting the PCM rev limiter at 6,800 before the shift would complete (TCM set at 6,200 shift point). Resetting transmission adaptives with a Predator made no difference.

I added to the values in the tables (got rid of the big dip in 2-3 table) and have managed to get the shift to complete before hitting a lowered PCM rev limit of 6,500, (see second picture) but would like to know what these values were for a factory new Mopar TCM, to be using as my tuning basepoint.

I am hoping someone can provide a sample from a TCM that hasn't been subject to the use of a shift modifier such as a Tranzformer or VTCM.

Thanks!

Ramp Before.JPGRamp Now.JPG

[caesar]

External piggyback devices would not alter the values in the calibration. What you're seeing are the original values.

[caesar]

Also, you could always disable the adapts for each shift if you want to keep the firmness consistent.

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Also, you could always disable the adapts for each shift if you want to keep the firmness consistent.

Caesar - I assume that you are referring to Trans/Auto Shift Properties/Adaptive/Torque Adapt?
What about the Trans/Auto Shift Properties/Adaptive/Fill Time and Fill Pressure Adapt's ?

[caesar]

Yes, I'd try disabling all of them and see how it reacts to it. I haven't personally tested it but it won't hurt anything to try. You can lower the max pos/max neg numbers instead.

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Yes, I'd try disabling all of them and see how it reacts to it. I haven't personally tested it but it won't hurt anything to try. You can lower the max pos/max neg numbers instead.

Working with a 2014 LC I had the opportunity to try this today. I did not seem to make any difference. Thanks for the suggestion though!

I was able to test the raising of the "limp" threshold and it worked.

[caesar]

Adaptives can take longer to see a difference since by design they need to take into account your general driving style (over time).

[CrucialVelocity]

Just an update, caesar of course was correct, I have seen another Mopar TCM read, and same tables as I posted above. I just thought that 44 at the bottom of the 2-3 shift table looked out of place, guess not.