HOW TO: Setup Wideband / External sensor in VCM Scanner V3 (With PRO Interface)

[schpenxel]

This is meant to serve as a basic how-to for setting up a wideband or other external sensor in VCM Scanner V3 WITH a PRO interface. The basic idea is to first tell the software WHICH input you want to record then you have to tell it WHAT to do with it.

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WHEN USING A PRE-DEFINED (COMMON) SENSOR:

Step 1: Right click in the channels window, select add channel



Step 2: Find MPVI A/D Input 1 (if you are using input 1--change accordingly for your input). DOUBLE Click on this.



Step 3: Confirm MPVI A/D Input 1 has been added to channel window. Sometimes these don't end up quite where you think they should, so if you don't see it right away please look at the rest of the channel list to confirm it is there



Step 4: Right click on the newly added "MPVI A/D Channel Input 1" channel and select "Transform"



Step 5: This window will come up where you can select a sensor & units. In this case I'm using a PLX O2 sensor and want Lambda



Step 6: Under Oxygen Sensors-->Lambda-->PLX. Click on PLX and select "OK" at the bottom of the window



Step 7: Confirm your channel has now changed to MPVI.1 -> PLX (or whatever is appropriate for your selections)


You have now added an external sensor using pre-defined settings.

Next up is how to add a custom setup sensor instead of using the already defined ones. This is useful when voltage offset issues present themselves OR you are using a sensor that is not in the list that HPT has included.

[schpenxel]

Next up is how to add a custom setup sensor instead of using the already defined ones. This is useful when voltage offset issues present themselves OR you are using a sensor that is not in the list that HPT has included.

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(first 5 steps are the same)

WHEN USING A CUSTOM DEFINED SENSOR:

Step 1: Right click in the channels window, select add channel



Step 2: Find MPVI A/D Input 1 (if you are using input 1--change accordingly for your input). DOUBLE Click on this.



Step 3: Confirm MPVI A/D Input 1 has been added to channel window. Sometimes these don't end up quite where you think they should, so if you don't see it right away please look at the rest of the channel list to confirm it is there



Step 4: Right click on the newly added "MPVI A/D Channel Input 1" channel and select "Transform"



Step 5: This window will come up where you can select a sensor & units. In this case I'm using a PLX O2 sensor and want Lambda



Step 6: Go to "user defined"



Step 7: Enter a Description and transfer function. I'm using the same as the PLX Lambda one except I've changed the offset by 0.04 just as an example



Step 8: Select "click to insert or change" right beside of "Parameter" down at the bottom. This is to define WHAT you are logging. Fuel pressure, lambda, methanol pressure, whatever. You have to select something here.



Step 9: In my case I'm using a PLX Lambda O2 sensor so I find that in the list and use it. You can also select things like fuel pressure and a few others throughout the list if needed



Step 10: Double click on the one you want and you may or may not get a generic sensor tip box. Select YES if you do get one


Step 11: Back at the transform editor, confirm everything is correct and hit "OK"


Step 12: That is it. Your custom defined sensor should now be working and show up just like a pre-defined one

[rao]

Great post. I found that custom was the way to go with dual widebands, once you did the transformations you could not select each sensor individually to do further analysis such as calculating an average wide band error.

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[schpenxel]

Good point and that is something that was brought up during the Beta. It will average the two wideband readings together if you are have dual widebands and use the built in transforms (or that is my understanding anyways)

[Keith@HPTuners]

If you have two of the same widebands, and you want to plot each of them individually:

Define the first one as you would normally, using the built in transform. Plot against this in your chart.
Define the second one as a user defined transform, and assign it a parameter of "WB EQ Ratio 2" for example, and them plot "WB EQ Ratio 2" on the chart.

There are parameters defined for sensors 1-8 (EQ ratio and Air/Fuel Ratio), and a parameter for bank 1 and bank 2 as well.

[axekick]

I really need some help on the next step, getting a AFR or EQ Error. It looks very easy when I try it but my the AFR or EQ sensor is pink in the "Math" parameter like I don't have it. I am successfully logging AFR and/or Lambda from my AFX wideband I just can't get the error to log against the commanded AFR/EQ. I'm about to cry because I know I'm not stupid and I have a tune to do in the morning but this isn't working.

[schpenxel]

I really need some help on the next step, getting a AFR or EQ Error. It looks very easy when I try it but my the AFR or EQ sensor is pink in the "Math" parameter like I don't have it. I am successfully logging AFR and/or Lambda from my AFX wideband I just can't get the error to log against the commanded AFR/EQ. I'm about to cry because I know I'm not stupid and I have a tune to do in the morning but this isn't working.

Post a screenshot of the afr and eq error math parameters and your channel list and we'll figure it out. It has to be something small.

Are you using a pro interface or standard via egr/AC port?

[axekick]

It's like this. I have the AFR working through the standard setup and have the commanded AFR but it won't let me do the AFR error because it doesn't see my AFR for what it is.
Screenshot.jpg

[mowton]

Did you Transform your wideband to AFR or Lambda? Lets see the Wideband setup

Ed M

[axekick]

Sure. It's like this. It's reading fine, just not being seen as AFR in the parameters.
Screenshot.jpg

[mowton]

I'm just not seeing it, sorry. Maybe you should delete the Channel MPVI and start over with it. It should be configuring as a 50120 AFR Sensor and not turning the Error value red??????

Ed M

[schpenxel]

Yeah I'd try deleting it too and start over, I'm not seeing what's wrong either..

Does the EQ ratio error one work by chance? Wouldn't think so if the WB is setup as AFR but figured I'd ask

[agoins]

Do you have any information on the outputs of the interface? I'm not seeing anything on turning them on/off.

[schpenxel]

No control over those in V3 thus far

[drj8787]

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...or-Not-Working post 10,11,13 address axekick's problem I think he hasn't said yet if that worked should tho

[CornDog]

I'm using the Innovate MTX-L wideband, since it's not on the pre defined list, which parameter do I click to insert or change? I tried the LC-1 and selected the generic sensor with the offset I used with 2.24 and it doesn't work.

[ElecTech]

I'm using the Innovate MTX-L wideband, since it's not on the pre defined list, which parameter do I click to insert or change? I tried the LC-1 and selected the generic sensor with the offset I used with 2.24 and it doesn't work.

Try the LC2. All of the Innovates seem to use the same values except for the LM-1 so the LM-2,LC1, and LC2 should all work. Otherwise, you have a configuration issue. Either it is wired to the interface wrong, you are logging the wrong channel, or the scanner channel is configured incorrectly.

[CornDog]

Try the LC2. All of the Innovates seem to use the same values except for the LM-1 so the LM-2,LC1, and LC2 should all work. Otherwise, you have a configuration issue. Either it is wired to the interface wrong, you are logging the wrong channel, or the scanner channel is configured incorrectly.

the only thing that has changed is the software version, if I switch back to 2.24, it logs just fine. I tried the LC-2 and the same thing happened, no actual values appear for wideband data.

[Keith@HPTuners]

the only thing that has changed is the software version, if I switch back to 2.24, it logs just fine. I tried the LC-2 and the same thing happened, no actual values appear for wideband data.

Are you actually adding it to the channels display?

[schpenxel]

Post screenshot and/or channel config so we have something to go on..