Any "Shelf maps" for 100% stock 2016 Z51 Vette that yield power gains? How about LTH?

[CTWhite16Vette]

Are there any off the shelf maps that will get me started for a 100% stock 2016 Z51 Stingray? How about any good starting maps for a Stringray with LTH and catless X-Pipe?

Currently my car is bone stock, but I have headers and an x-pipe that just showed up as well, so I'd like to see the difference.

Thanks in advance!

[Higgs Boson]

this forum is for learning to tune, there are a lot of threads about it, in fact almost all of them will help you.....otherwise you just bought the most expensive flash device available.

with that said, check the tune repository on your HPT home page.

[Redline MS]

this forum is for learning to tune, there are a lot of threads about it, in fact almost all of them will help you.....otherwise you just bought the most expensive flash device available.

with that said, check the tune repository on your HPT home page.

Sounds like he might be better off going to a shop that specializes and understands DI calibrating before he kills the engine..... 1 post and already looking for the easy way out...we all started somewhere and a request like that is like jumping into a lions den here...

Get ahold of Ed (Motown) he might sell you something.

[Joshtuning]

read threw the forum do some research on the new direct injection engines

[jtrosky]

Let me ask you guys - what are the most dangerous mods to make as a beginner? Spark timing? Fueling? Might be benficial to new folks looking to learn how to tune - just so they know what to be extra careful with (obviously, you need to be careful about everything, but certain tune changes are more likely to be disasterous than others).

Things like modifying shift points and speed limters are usually pretty safe when using common sense, but what are the things that even small changes can really do some damage?

I know it's kind of a broad question, but just curious what some of the responses will be...

[yonson]

Let me ask you guys - what are the most dangerous mods to make as a beginner? Spark timing? Fueling? Might be benficial to new folks looking to learn how to tune - just so they know what to be extra careful with (obviously, you need to be careful about everything, but certain tune changes are more likely to be disasterous than others).

Things like modifying shift points and speed limters are usually pretty safe when using common sense, but what are the things that even small changes can really do some damage?

I know it's kind of a broad question, but just curious what some of the responses will be...

Yes...

[CTWhite16Vette]

Hey guys, totally get the purpose of the forum and what HP Tuner is designed to do. I'm looking for a base to start with is all I'm getting at.

I'd like the opportunity to compare that with a stock car/map and reverse engineer what was done to learn.

Are there any solid reads on here that gives in-depth review of gen5 parameters and DI Tuning?

[Higgs Boson]

Hey guys, totally get the purpose of the forum and what HP Tuner is designed to do. I'm looking for a base to start with is all I'm getting at.

I'd like the opportunity to compare that with a stock car/map and reverse engineer what was done to learn.

Are there any solid reads on here that gives in-depth review of gen5 parameters and DI Tuning?

https://www.hptuners.com/help/vcm_ed...vanced_e78.htm

[yonson]

Hey guys, totally get the purpose of the forum and what HP Tuner is designed to do. I'm looking for a base to start with is all I'm getting at.

I'd like the opportunity to compare that with a stock car/map and reverse engineer what was done to learn.

Are there any solid reads on here that gives in-depth review of gen5 parameters and DI Tuning?

Your best bet is once you've read and UNDERSTAND the link Higgs posted, just start playing with your car a parameter at a time. The stock calibration is a great starting point, after all it did take a team of Calibration Engineers years to develop...

[mbray01]

I will say this, most guys dont just share their tunes, they may help if you have specific questions, but most of the info tuners use on a daily basis has come to them through their own personal time, money, etc. Just sharing out tunes is like going to a mall and randomly handing out $100 bills.

secondly, your first tune experience being a di car is like deciding to go into construction and deciding to build the empire state building as your first project.
Most of us guys who have been doing this for years have had a major learning curve with these new strategies. Learning from scratch is going to be a major undertaking to say the least

[mbray01]

another thing is if you do some searching there are numerous threads on changes that are being made and what they do.

[jtrosky]

@mbray01 - while I agree that the newer DI cars are much more complex and harder to tuner, sometimes I think that you are almost better off learning DI tuning when you don't know anything else about tuning. Since tuning them is so different, I think people coming from tuning older cars try to apply the same logic to DI tuning instead of just learning it fresh. Besides that, nowadays, most cars are DI and you just have to work with what you have! If all that you have is a DI car, then that's what you have to tune (and learn). It's not like you are going to buy another non-DI car just to learn to tune it and then forget everything you learned and learn to tune DI cars! :-)

I've never tuned a thing before and learned with my DI car. Granted, I still have a LOT to learn, but I'm getting more and more comfortable by the day and haven't broken anything yet! :-)

[yonson]

I don't really see the DI engines as that much different to calibrate than earlier engines, yes there are differences but the fundamentals are the same they were when I started working on Mustangs in the mid 90's, there's just a whole lot more knobs you can turn these days...

[xBoostx]

If your changing exhaust only you'll be fine with the stock tune.

[Ghostnotes]

I really dont think he was asking too much. After all sometimes reverse engineering works best for some people. As in my case. I guess i was fortunate enough to have someone give me a starting point when i was learning.Being able to see the differences while studying is best for some. As an amatuer tuner i or at least some of us should be willing to do so, i know i would. It's a big world out there guys, nobody is taking away money from anybody. In my profession we see newcomers all the time and we give all the tools needed to be successful.
My breakthrough with E38 VE tuning came via a handout but thats how i learned.
Im also faced with having to relearn as well and I learn by eample when it comes to this. Simple things like CAI and headers, i would be more than happy to share with someone. However i am glad to pay for a base mail order that includes a cam or trottle body etc... That way i can see what has been done and where its going if i need to tweak it.