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    Narrow band simulation

    I have used AEM Eugo units but i try to stick to Innovate products as i get better results.
    Supposedly the LM-2 is capable of producing a simulated narrow band signal based off of the wideband. Has anyone wired this into a factory ecu to allow the ecu to use it for higher accuracy?

    i am debating on weather i want to just get another MTX-L or get creative and switch over to the LM-2
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    This capability exists on some widebands, but it may make
    a "laggy" output due to filtering behaviors which can be a
    destablilizing influence. I doubt you will get any better
    steady state accuracy out of it either, the element is the
    same more or less with just better (closed loop) temperature
    control and cal-mapping to get you the wider measurement
    band. Where it counts for switch-mode closed loop, there
    isn't that much variation about stoich on the OE sensors.

    Welding in another bung is something I've gotten done for
    a $10 bill to the exhaust shop guy doing the welding (the
    front office, you don't want to talk to). Toyota oil pan plug
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    i can weld it in at home no problem since i build chassis in there.
    thanks for the input of the effectiveness.
    if the lm-2 would produce a more accurate reading to report back on the narrowband switch point because it is technically using a better sensor i would do it but doesn't look like that is the case.
    i think ill stick to the standard gauge and just use the usual afr ve error to tune it up. mtx-l it is.

    thank you
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    Add another bung, let narrowbands be narrowbands and widebands be widebands. Don't try to make one behave like the other. I know it's a "feature" on most WB's today, but I've never had good luck with it. Not worth the potential PITA IMO

    Narrowbands are faster for sure. They work well for their application.
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    Agreed on adding a bung for the WB. I have used the narrowband output for factory computers before, but only under extenuating circumstances

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    i usually keep them separated like you guys mention so this was just some random bright idea i thought i had that turned out to be what i was thinking it would be deep down; garbage idea.
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