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    Actually getting to play with this on the dyno right now. 2016 C7Z A8 upper lower pullies, H/C, Ported blower, headers, intake, meth, and nitrous.
    First thing I did was smooth the areas I was seeing throttle closing and it definitely helped out there if not solved it completely, but having issues beyond 6350rpms. Logged maximum engine tq follows same curve as actual but zeros out at 6350rpm every time.... At that point dyno shows Tq and hp tanking. Wonder if this going beyond bounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet08 View Post
    Actually getting to play with this on the dyno right now. 2016 C7Z A8 upper lower pullies, H/C, Ported blower, headers, intake, meth, and nitrous.
    First thing I did was smooth the areas I was seeing throttle closing and it definitely helped out there if not solved it completely, but having issues beyond 6350rpms. Logged maximum engine tq follows same curve as actual but zeros out at 6350rpm every time.... At that point dyno shows Tq and hp tanking. Wonder if this going beyond bounds?
    Have a log or a screen shot? What is zeroing out Maximum Tq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Charles View Post
    Have a log or a screen shot? What is zeroing out Maximum Tq?
    Yes maximum tq. Didn't save the last run. But it has been pretty consistent so I'll screen shot it on the next run.
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    What is delivered or engine tq doing?

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    Having issues getting a the file to attach "stupid new laptop"
    Delivered Engine Tq holds 640 across the board till 6575 then tapers to 615 at 6750
    Engine Tq is following its steady curve through the pull then mirrors delivered engine tq from 6500 to 6750

    After looking at this more it looks like throttle is shutting again only when maximum tq zeros out
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    New beta up with the following changes:
    Intake cam angle changes seem to work now.
    Exhaust cam angle support added.
    Copy/Paste now works.
    Undo Last/Undo All seems to work
    Smoothing/Interpolation while unlinked is fixed.
    Column widths were too short

    The only thing that seems to be left is the ability to remember limits/ranges/preferences per tune/file.
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    Great!

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    Good deal!

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    Very nice Keith... Is making the coefficients the same in all 4 tables coming in the future Now I've just got to start really messing with this to see how the best way to use it is

    What about the other missing tables - will these be available soon? Last I heard Jarrah didn't get around to getting one of them for you, but sent you the two more important ones?

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    3.5.85 won't let you copy/paste from, for example, Airmass to E85 Airmass if you want to copy all of them Linked. You have to go one by one but when you switch between them you lose each paste. You can copy each spark table individually to excel then individually to the E85 tables but it won't let you extrapolate coefficients after pasting. You can manually edit a cell after copy/paste and the extrapolate button will activate.

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    You can't copy all of them linked.

    I will fix the second bug.
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    What I've been doing is going from say airmass to e85 airmass is copy the airmass coifficients and paste them into the E85 airmass then reopen the virtual tq and adjust my E85 airmass based off my airmass tables..

    Probably should be an easier way but that's what I've been doing

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    I tried copying straight from the Airmass and MAP coefficient tables to the E85 Airmass and E85 MAP tables, which would have saved me from using the Editor and copying each table individually and each cam angle (times each table) individually but it appears only the MAP tables copied over. The Airmass tables didn't copy the cells properly so I had to use the Torque Editor.

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    For support. More than a day ago, I asked for a 3.5 version. Still do not have. Application 62485. The car is waiting. Please do.Do not see join date, its my new account. I have 2 HPt vcm.Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcm300 View Post
    For support. More than a day ago, I asked for a 3.5 version. Still do not have. Application 62485. The car is waiting. Please do.Do not see join date, its my new account. I have 2 HPt vcm.Thanks.
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    Now i have. Thanks for support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgs Boson View Post
    Many businesses are closed on Saturday and/or Sunday to spend time with family, sleep, and wash underwear.
    A lot of work, so do not even notice what day of the week Sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcm300 View Post
    A lot of work, so do not even notice what day of the week Sorry
    i forgive you ;-)

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    Been playing with this table, no question it does help. But, separate from just smoothing (some are not bad, some are really rough), should we generally be telling the PCM more or less torque? As this seems to be a function of there calculation, does telling it more torque for a given spark/airmass increase possible airflow demand to meet that torque?
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