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    (pe eq ratio gas) vs (pe eq ratio alcohol)

    at what percentage alcohol does it switch to the alcohol pe table? or doesn't it work that way?
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    Depends on what you have in the multiplier table and how everything else is setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davez28 View Post
    at what percentage alcohol does it switch to the alcohol pe table? or doesn't it work that way?
    Check the "[ECM] 12636 - PE/COT Spark Advance Correction Mult vs. Fuel Composition" table. Here is how I have mine set up. Basically nothing happens until 10%+ then it interpolates up to the 20% cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cringer View Post
    Check the "[ECM] 12636 - PE/COT Spark Advance Correction Mult vs. Fuel Composition" table. Here is how I have mine set up. Basically nothing happens until 10%+ then it interpolates up to the 20% cell.

    HNEK8yp.jpg
    So that table not only adds spark but also switches to the eq ratio (alcohol) table?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgod1100 View Post
    So that table not only adds spark but also switches to the eq ratio (alcohol) table?
    Sorry my bad...that table only effects spark. As far as I know the PE should always be interpolated based on alcohol % (0-100%) between the [ECM] 12400 and [ECM] 12403 tables.

    If the tables are the same, then nothing will change with E during PE. Are you specifically seeing something off in your logs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cringer View Post
    Sorry my bad...that table only effects spark. As far as I know the PE should always be interpolated based on alcohol % (0-100%) between the [ECM] 12400 and [ECM] 12403 tables.

    If the tables are the same, then nothing will change with E during PE. Are you specifically seeing something off in your logs?
    Nope, not at all. I've never ran E through my car (yet). I was just confused as to if that flex fuel spark table was doing more than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgod1100 View Post
    Nope, not at all. I've never ran E through my car (yet). I was just confused as to if that flex fuel spark table was doing more than I thought.
    Peep this: https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post712615
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cringer View Post
    will do, thanks!