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    17+ rouche Nightmare

    Just pulled this file from a friends 17+ rouche Nightmare F150 and i guess im behind the curve hear, their is no maf on this truck or any maf tables, Just wanted to have a look and see. Also pulled a file this am on a 17+ 3.7 mustang and the same thing applies
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    They are speed density. To my knowledge, only the 2015+ V8 Mustangs still have the MAF.
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    OH BOY..... Thanks!

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    What table do they use for fueling or calculating VE

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    What the hell is a 'Rouche' lmao

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    It's way more complex than that. They don't have a ve table for instance.

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    Thanks Curt, i have realized that today after doing some research! Way outside my capabilities for sure

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    I hope fords get a virtual ve editor like the new GM has. That is a nice tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlinke View Post
    I hope fords get a virtual ve editor like the new GM has. That is a nice tool.
    +1. It's such a pain to have to use Excel and all the steps involved to back calculate everything now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlinke View Post
    I hope fords get a virtual ve editor like the new GM has. That is a nice tool.
    would be nice, we are still waiting for the torque/inverse tool that was mentioned a while back...

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    Wouldn't surprise me if 2018+ Mustang GT doesn't lose the MAF. Would really be nice to have by then if it does happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridenrunwv View Post
    Wouldn't surprise me if 2018+ Mustang GT doesn't lose the MAF. Would really be nice to have by then if it does happen.
    I thanked baby jesus that Ford didn't ditch the MAF on the 2018 Coyote's in Mustangs...F150's went speed density though
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    Glad to hear they didn't. I hadn't looked into it or anything but have been waiting and hoping they didn't.

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    Have they actually confirmed they won't be speed density? They could possibly be putting the maf in there for the IAT sensor like they did for the 2011 Ecoboost F150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridenrunwv View Post
    +1. It's such a pain to have to use Excel and all the steps involved to back calculate everything now.
    Any how to with the method mentioned?

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    im sure it'll be unlocked. I'm curious what the file looks like. I'll likely never own or tune one but I still like to know how the other side lives.

    Nothing is Impenetrable usually; just a matter of time.