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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by bertawarwagon View Post
    What is year of the vehicle and anything else done to it mod wise
    I am so sorry. I should have included that.

    It is a 2016 Dodge Charger SXT ADW:
    Ripp Supercharger Kit (Vortech V3-Si)
    Dyno Tune ECM & TCM ? expired
    Smaller Blower Pulley (+3psi boost)
    UR MAXX Crank Lightweight Pulley
    Ripp Ignition Coils
    BBK 78MM Throttle body
    Pug lower intake
    Port matched Upper intake
    FIC 1000cc Injectors
    Walbro 470lph fuel pump
    Proflex Commander flex fuel sensor

    Stock trans, gears etc.

    It was dyno tuned prior to Smaller Boost pulley, Walbro pump and 1000cc injectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bertawarwagon View Post
    What is year of the vehicle and anything else done to it mod wise
    attached is my log.
    MJH Rev 1 MBT Fail
    and tune
    MJH 4-27 rev 1
    I had stuttering around the 11 min mark, 13:11 and 15:50-16:00. I tried to play with the MBT but that didn't go well.

    So I went back and tuned and got this log which ran better but has random PT stutter. MJH rev 2 Drive home

    Tune for this change is MJH 4-27 Rev 2. the fuel trims on this tune are pretty good.


    it is not letting me attach the logs yet
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer View Post
    Here are some links that have helped me out and should get you started:

    Know your PCM
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...tion-2-25-Beta

    Some more info from FCA about the PCM and some mechanical stuff
    http://perception.fcaperformanceinst...84/0621616.pdf
    https://techauthorityonlinedemo.extr...8169906065.pdf
    http://perception.fcaperformanceinst...84/0131216.pdf

    If you are going to tweak the 5.7...make sure you know the differences among the different years
    https://www.knowyourparts.com/techni...-hemi-anatomy/

    Overview of common dodge parameters
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...tarters-How-To

    One members overview in using HP tuners
    http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...3=#post5949729

    NN tuning
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...el+mass+tuning
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post473128

    Speed density tuning (go to HP tuners online help, search for tuning and select user submitted)
    Attachment 79439

    Approaches to tuning (NN vs VE)
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ight=aircharge

    Explanation of throttle airflow:
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post466902
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...nse-with-a-S-C
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post481319

    If your throttle hangs and car seems to cruise by itself:
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...=cruise+effect

    Here is one more, it's a doc an old version on how to tune GM/Chevy vehicles but most of the info is applicable.
    https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...-software.html

    Some how to's
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...o-and-how-to-s

    Another link with tips and tricks - for example, good to know Expected Pedal vs. Power % Request values should be the inverse of each other
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post354216

    Here is a walkthrough on one approach to address throttle lag
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post376409

    ETC and DD settings
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...nse-with-a-S-C

    Areas to tweak for throttle hang
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...=throttle+hang
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ighlight=sonic

    O2 Transport tweaks if readings seem slow
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...=throttle+hang

    Some info on Flex Fuel
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post543221
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...e-on-a-Hellcat

    Discussion on Sensed Map which can give better throttle feel
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...36-P2173/page2
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...hange-readings
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ght=sensed+map

    VVT tuning, some of the best explanations I have seen for the Hemis.
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...372-Can-timing
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...+6.4+vvt+table
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post404114
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthread.php?68218-5-7-vvt
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthread.php?61033-Please-Explain-WOT-VVT-Values/page1
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...-valve-tiiming
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post456677

    What is lock-pin?
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...pin-definition (aligns with FCA workbook explanation)
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post678455 (aligns with stock VVT tables and vid explanation of VVT)

    Setting up a 270 in a 5.7
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post439322

    5.7 vs 6.2/6.4 VVT
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...-6-2-cam/page2

    An FCA workbook that describes how VVT (VCT) works. Basically when the OCV is 0% PWM the cam is in lock pin (full intake advance) and when it is at 100% it is full intake retard.
    http://perception.fcaperformanceinstitute.com/FCARepository_con/topiccontent/1588106484/0121716.pdf


    Nice article where 3 different cams with identical lift but different LSA are compared.
    https://www.hotrod.com/articles/cams...ted-explained/

    VVT explained by Hot Rod, the graph near the end hits home as to why VVT is beneficial.
    https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp...-valve-timing/

    VVT tuning from The Tuning School which apparently shows some gain in tweaking VVT on what I guess is a stock motor. As for their dodge tuning course book, VVT is really not discussed in detail.
    https://thetuningschool.com/blogs/news/vvt-in-123

    Info on SRT4 MAP sensor
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...NEEDED-PLEASE!

    Airflow & torque relationship. Appears to relate to tables 35032, 44386, 19645 and 36116 in GPEC2A controller.
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ue-Correlation

    Idle tuning
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ntrolled-Setup

    If you try to change tire size and get an ABS error...try a different bypass cable and/or software like Alfaobd.
    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...l=1#post603295
    Thanks!!! This is very helpful

  4. #24
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    Thank you Homer for the links.

    SStampede.

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    Sorry if posted in the wrong place but first thanks Homer for the awesome links secondly I have a 2013 Charger 6.4 srt8 and just completely rebuilt the motor due to lifter failure so I deleted mds installed stage 1 comp hrt cam, springs, seals ect... hellcat oil pump, new bearings with additional oil clearance, long tube headers with catless mids, K&N CAI, ported intake, and had it dyno tuned locally by a mostly gm Ford guy it put out 467 hp and I got a pedal commander recently I'm looking to learn to go over the tune installed and fine tune it and maybe send it to someone to get there opinion on it I have a hp tuner mpvi3 and can log data I just need pointed in the right direction thanks for any help in advance
    Last edited by Charger supebee 392; 05-20-2023 at 03:07 PM.

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    read a lot look compare trial and error

    does it have stock pistons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostBuilder View Post
    I am so sorry. I should have included that.

    It is a 2016 Dodge Charger SXT ADW:
    Ripp Supercharger Kit (Vortech V3-Si)
    Dyno Tune ECM & TCM ? expired
    Smaller Blower Pulley (+3psi boost)
    UR MAXX Crank Lightweight Pulley
    Ripp Ignition Coils
    BBK 78MM Throttle body
    Pug lower intake
    Port matched Upper intake
    FIC 1000cc Injectors
    Walbro 470lph fuel pump
    Proflex Commander flex fuel sensor

    Stock trans, gears etc.

    It was dyno tuned prior to Smaller Boost pulley, Walbro pump and 1000cc injectors.
    @BoostBuilder? How do you like the Proflex Commander setup? I've thought about getting one to be able to go Flex Fuel on a single map.

    I held off after I went by to go check out the shop since I'm not far away. I'm guessing it's the metal building in the guy's backyard out in the middle of the country. I wasn't expecting that after talking to them on the phone and just became a little leery.

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    Lol

    What the building looks like from the outside has nothing to do with how quick the cars that come out of it are