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    Need help with this "FROST" tune

    Good morning, I had sent this PCM away for a mail order tune a couple years ago and finally tried to drive the truck today. It is NOT happy. Can hardly even get it out of my driveway. It was done by tunedbyfrost.com

    Engine is a 2006 5.3 L33, Long tubes, 219/228 112LSA hot cam, and its been swapped into my 95 2wd truck. manual trans.

    is there any way to know where to begin by just looking at the tune file?

    *edit* managed to go for a small drive, ill include the scanner logs*
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    Frost is a solid tuner.... I’m sure you have something else going on! Didn’t look at tune, wrong computer

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    Good to know hes a memeber here. Last time I drove the truck was 2 years ago with just a stock tune with vats turned off, and it ran excellent

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    well right off the bat the fuel trims are all jacked up due to your o2 sensors not working correctly b1s1 works in one log (kinda) then doesn't in the other - same same with b2s1 and when they read they are pegged rich
    I don't know how the exhaust system is setup but maybe toss some new o2's in and see how it runs and get yourself a wide band sensor if you don't have one already and insure there aren't any exhaust leaks,intakes leaks and such

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    Well, off the bat, the LTFT Bank 1 are way rich and the LTFT bank 2 are way lean. If the O2 sensors are working right, then you've got a mechanical problem. You aren't logging a lot of data, someone else with more experience is going to have to chime in.

    Ha! We posted the exact same thing at the same time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCSS07 View Post
    well right off the bat the fuel trims are all jacked up due to your o2 sensors not working correctly b1s1 works in one log (kinda) then doesn't in the other - same same with b2s1 and when they read they are pegged rich
    I don't know how the exhaust system is setup but maybe toss some new o2's in and see how it runs and get yourself a wide band sensor if you don't have one already and insure there aren't any exhaust leaks,intakes leaks and such
    Thanks. I do have a wideband in it. its reading through the ac pressure sensor. Ive never messed with tunes before..all I can go on is that the truck ran fantastic on a stock tune, then poorly on this "mail order" tune. i'll check the o2 sensors i guess..
    the exhaust is long tubes, dual 2.5" pipe into a magnaflow muffler and dumped before the axle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workingdog View Post
    Well, off the bat, the LTFT Bank 1 are way rich and the LTFT bank 2 are way lean. If the O2 sensors are working right, then you've got a mechanical problem. You aren't logging a lot of data, someone else with more experience is going to have to chime in.

    Ha! We posted the exact same thing at the same time!
    what other data would be helpful to log? sorry im very new to this stuff.

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    Double check for vacuum leaks and verify fuel pressure is 58psi.
    2016 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6L80e, not as slow but still heavy.

    If you don't post your tune and logs when you have questions you aren't helping yourself.

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    Thank you all for the helpful tips.

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    I threw some new o2 sensors in it, made two logs right when i fire it up. didnt seem to help my situation lol. sprayed brake clean all over the intake while it was running to try find a leak..nothing. I pulled the intake now, gonna do new gaskets. Thinking Maybe I have a wiring problem someware.
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    Where is the LTFTs go? They are all zero. Did you disable them?
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    Yeah they are disabled in those logs. Only way I could get the truck back home yesterday was to keep resetting the LTFT in the scanner, so I just stopped and programmed them out instead.

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    Quick question if anyone is still checking in on me....i found that I had my bank 1 sensor 1 pinned to the bank 2 sensor 1 spot on the pcm, and vice versa....would this have been my culprit?

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    Yep. The rich/lean corrections will be applied to the wrong banks....not the first one to do that.

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    YES! Fix that! God, I feel bad for the PCM.
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    Yes it would ... good catch

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    Right on! I'll fix that up. So one sensor measures how rich and the other measures how lean, is that correct ? And then adjusts accordingly?
    I would have thought they both had the same job. I'm still learning!

    Thanks for all the help guys

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    No, they both do the same thing. They both read lean/rich on each sensor for 1 bank but you can't have the banks mismatched in the wiring or it will report back to the computer wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP View Post
    No, they both do the same thing. They both read lean/rich on each sensor for 1 bank but you can't have the banks mismatched in the wiring or it will report back to the computer wrong.
    very strange..but i'll go with it. Thank you very much!
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    If the banks are swapped, typically one side will read positive and other goes negative.. for sure fix that

    If you want to diagnose how it runs.. command Open loop in scanner and take it for a drive

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