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    Rough start up idle

    06 Chrysler 300 srt, 426, 2.9 whipple, fairly small cam for build.

    On startup the car chatters really bad and the engines shakes + belt slap until the idle actually settles in where commanded @760 RPMs.

    I'm lost at this point on how to make the 1st minute of initial startup smoother. I have my min spark at -8 in the area of idle and all my proportional P/N stuff is stock settings. When I had min spark set at 0 or above the car would hunt at idle.

    Thoughts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelGardinier View Post
    06 Chrysler 300 srt, 426, 2.9 whipple, fairly small cam for build.

    On startup the car chatters really bad and the engines shakes + belt slap until the idle actually settles in where commanded @760 RPMs.

    I'm lost at this point on how to make the 1st minute of initial startup smoother. I have my min spark at -8 in the area of idle and all my proportional P/N stuff is stock settings. When I had min spark set at 0 or above the car would hunt at idle.

    Thoughts??
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    Hey Mike - Jordan here. I would venture a guess its running really lean, tough to know unless you hardwire your wideband to a switch so you can let it warm up before starting the car (in a log itll just peg the gauge until the sensor is warmed up). Do you have a log anyways? you can look at your injector pulsewidth during the rough time and then compare to the smoother time and see the difference in fueling. Usually you need to provide extra fuel into the intake runners when the engine is cold because the fuel doesn't evaporate yet into the cylinder, so some of the injected fuel is just running down the intake runner and sitting on the back of the valve until the engine gets warmer, at which point you start getting the evaporated fuel from the previous combustion cycle plus the current injector pulsewidth, which gives the proper amount of fuel.