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Thread: 72lb Injectors Rich at Idle...Min Pulse Width issue?

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    Thumbs up 72lb Injectors Rich at Idle...Min Pulse Width issue?

    All,
    I have tried adjusting the min milligrams in transient fuel and also the min pulse width table drastically to no avail .These are Deatschwerks 72lbs injectors and I entered all the injector data. Im still running rich at idle and am stumped. Id rather not change a ton of things before you guys view it. Thanks for the help!
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    Tuning Addict 5FDP's Avatar
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    Pull fuel from the VE yet?

    Fuel pressure isn't going higher at idle is it?

    Still staying steady?
    2016 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6L80e, not as slow but still heavy.

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    yes, ive adjusted the VE a ton to no avail. Im not monitoring fuel pressure actually. Its a return less system so I probably should. It was measured at 58-60psi at during cranking though. I guess we need a fuel pressure gauge.

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    This has a 380lph pump

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    I?m thinking the fuel pressure is the issue now that I saw where the injectors are flowed at 43psi

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    I also dont think I adjusted the flow rate vs kpa table haha

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    Tuning Addict 5FDP's Avatar
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    I could see an issue you had 72lb/hr at 43.5psi in the table but are running 58psi or higher of fuel pressure.
    2016 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6L80e, not as slow but still heavy.

    If you don't post your tune and logs when you have questions you aren't helping yourself.

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    you need to log more P.I.D on the scanner. you may also need to reduce the injector offset vs volts vs vac... i reduced mine steps of 2% until i got the INJ MS down to about 1.85 then i adjusted ve and transient. again you are not logging enough P.I.D, also highly recommend getting a wide band to help with A/F error table.

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    What does PID stand for ? I have a wideband .

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    proportional integral derivative
    it is the name of the feedback control system
    in these cases recording pids means recording inputs, commanded outputs, actual outputs.
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    I?m still unable to get below 2.4ms of injector pulsewidth . I changed transient to .001 , made sure the IFR is right , basically bottomed out the VE table at idle and still nothing . I also tried messing with the short pulse adder with negative values but nothing still. I started another thread on this in 4th gen because I realized it?s 4th gen