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    Torque Converter TCC Slip high

    I was in the middle of VE tuning when i noticed my RPMs would randomly jump high for no reason. So i started to log some transmission parameters and noticed the TCC slip would get up to 1500 +. My guess from research is that my torque converter is going bad or is already bad. I just wanted a second opinion. I have attached a scan and you can see where the RPMs jump at 2:27:51.

    may 11 test.hpl

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    I've had mine slip upto 2500 rpm...... averaged about 1500-2000rpm. It's about managing your throttle, tcc lockup and pressures along with timing etc.

    I custom designed a launch system for my car using the normal throttle torque management along with the transmission etc to control torque on take off and limit the transmission slip.... knocked .4 seconds off my 0-100km/h and I can launch in any conditions with no slip....

    Everything has its limits. I restructured my entire TCC Apple table and axis. This is 'advanced' advise, dont mess with it until you understand the transmission tables first or it might go bang if you apply too much pressure.
    2009 Holden Commodore VE SS - Silver Sedan - 6.0 V8 - Auto, DOD Delete, 210/218 550' 116LSA CAM, RAMJet OTR, HSV Headers, 200 Cell Hurricane H-Flow Cats. IQ System.

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    Thanks for the info BigDaddyCool.

    Yeah i didnt want to mess with any of the transmission parameters.

    But to go further into my problem, under medium to hard acceleration its fine. But when i am just trying to cruise down the road my RPMs will sometimes jump high and just stay there for a while. I try to feather the throttle a bit but it does not seem to help. I have attached anther scan where you can see it happen a bit better at 7:32:35

    ma7 7 e tune 2.hpl

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    Im having the exact same problem but cant figure it out, seems like when the tcc goes to apply it doesnt lock up and almost acts like its in neutral...

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    Looked it over........ post tune and log torque levels ...... what sort of mods/outputs the car got? Have you checked/topped up the transmission fluid, what the transmission oil temp.....

    To me it seems like it needs more pressure...... hence why I ask you post your tune file
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    See my post here regarding the tcc apply ramp chart. Just a theory right now.

    https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...0-90-at-cruise

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    This reminds me of when I used to take calls at the shop...

    "[redacted] Auto Service this is Chris, what can I do for you today?"
    Them: "Yeah, can you give me an estimate on a water pump?"
    Me: "Sure thing, what's the make/model?"
    Them: "Oh, it's a 4-door."
    Me: "..."
    Them: "A blue 4-door."