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Thread: Bank 1 & bank 2 lean after airflow & feet forward changes on whipple build

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    Bank 1 & bank 2 lean after airflow & feet forward changes on whipple build

    I have been dialing in drivability on my 426, 2.9 whipple build. One of the main things I have been dialing in is the transition into boost and also staying out of boost when it's not desired. To do this I have scaled my large throttle tables under feet forward control, the cars feels damn near NA until I really lean into the pedal now and drives so smooth and goes into boost with a factory like feel.

    For the Throttle Body Model I simply added 28ish percent from top to bottom as that roughly the difference from the stock TB to the 102mm I run.

    However sense doing this I often get a "bank 1 and 2 lean" my assumption is because I have more air entering the car and the pedal not reflecting it? I would honestly rather turn the codes off then go back to the old tables, but wanted Input from others. Anything else to check out?
    Last edited by MichaelGardinier; 05-25-2019 at 08:43 PM.

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    Sensed MAP on or off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelGardinier View Post
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    Turn it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoolboy View Post
    Turn it on.
    Not a good idea on the NGC3. Unlike the GPEC, in my experience no matter what you do, you will exceed a hard coded airflow limit based on actual Map readings if you leave it enabled. The result is a completely dead gas pedal, car coasting in limp mode half way through a pull. Have to decelerate under 20mph or key off/key on to reset it. Not a fun time.
    Last edited by 06300CSRT8; 06-04-2019 at 08:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06300CSRT8 View Post
    Not a good idea on the NGC3. Unlike the GPEC, in my experience no matter what you do, you will exceed a hard coded airflow limit based on actual Map readings if you leave it enabled. The result is a completely dead gas pedal, car coasting in limp mode half way through a pull. Have to decelerate under 20mph or key off/key on to reset it. Not a fun time.
    Thank you for correcting me on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06300CSRT8 View Post
    Not a good idea on the NGC3. Unlike the GPEC, in my experience no matter what you do, you will exceed a hard coded airflow limit based on actual Map readings if you leave it enabled. The result is a completely dead gas pedal, car coasting in limp mode half way through a pull. Have to decelerate under 20mph or key off/key on to reset it. Not a fun time.
    What conditions have led to this? Is this something you only see in boosted applications? I only ask because I have Sensed MAP enabled on my '06 JGC SRT-8 that uses NGC3 CAN, and haven't had any issues with it. But it is an N/A 426 application.