Is your tune remote, street, or dyno?
Is your tune remote, street, or dyno?
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
If anyone is going to really help you they will need a complete build list. Without it all just guessing.
2012 ZL1 - Maggie Heartbeat, Port & Polish Heads, Custom Cam, Custom rotating assembly, steel sleeved LS9, No NOS and No water meth. 16psi
810rwhp and 820rwtq 91 Octane 6400 rpm
948rwhp and 951rwtq 105 Octane 6400 rpm
999rwhp and 997rwtq on 60% Ethanol 6400 rpm
I totally understand. I have street tuned mine and will get it on the dyno someday. Have a MPS pulley system and cooling mods to go in but need injectors so waiting on that day... Wife is NOT mod friendly...
I run a blended tune and am working on some fueling issues with transitions at part throttle.
Last edited by PGA2B; 07-04-2019 at 12:10 PM.
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
No mods. You cannot just say 1150 injectors. Means nothing. Your whole tune changes with these. Like saying changed cam. Means nothing. Not picking on you just trying to get you the right help.
Here is an example. These cams require different tunes and have different results. I have ran all of them in my ZL1. Injectors are the same. Looked at yours. Was trying to make sure that the cal was correct for what you bought.
Intake ExhaustDuration .006 288 306Duration .050 233 251Valve Lift @ 1.7 .607 .614Lobe Separation 120Intake Center Line 115Camshaft Advance 5
Intake ExhaustDuration .006 285 309Duration .050 235 252Valve Lift @ 1.7 .621 .595Lobe Separation 119Intake Center Line 114Camshaft Advance 5
Intake ExhaustDuration .006 281 289Duration .050 227 236Lobe Lift .370 .353Valve Lift @ 1.7 .629 .600Lobe Separation 118Intake Center Line 114Camshaft Advance 4
Intake ExhaustDuration .006 265 297Duration .050 215 247Lobe Lift .370 .386Valve Lift @ 1.7 .629 .656Lobe Separation 121Intake Center Line 121Camshaft Advance 0
Last edited by jsllc; 07-06-2019 at 02:14 AM.
2012 ZL1 - Maggie Heartbeat, Port & Polish Heads, Custom Cam, Custom rotating assembly, steel sleeved LS9, No NOS and No water meth. 16psi
810rwhp and 820rwtq 91 Octane 6400 rpm
948rwhp and 951rwtq 105 Octane 6400 rpm
999rwhp and 997rwtq on 60% Ethanol 6400 rpm
Last edited by Dzz88; 07-04-2019 at 01:26 PM.
Mods list.. 2.38 upper, porter snout and 90mm tb, full texas speed exhaust, spark plugs, the mutt injectors.. id850cc worked to 1150cc, flex fuel, heat X with pump and underhood tank. Mighty Mouse can, Normal bolt ons
Last edited by Dzz88; 07-05-2019 at 08:05 AM.
Did you get a spec sheet with the injectors? And who did the rework on them?
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
Oh great...
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
Yeah, I'd say get a good set of injectors in there with known data, and you should be able to get it driving the way you want it. With the rest of your mods, there is no reason it shouldn't drive perfectly with VVE, MAF, O2 sensor, flex fuel data, and all injector data (including tip temp) being correct.
Probably possible to get it right with the current injectors but without sending them to get flowed and characterized it is a guessing game in my opinion. Plus, if the set isn't matched, there's nothing much you can do about it.
This is just my opinion, of course. Someone more experienced should chime in before you take my advice as the final answer.
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
My only point is they aren't necessarily characterized anymore, unless you are saying all other 850 data will be the same except flow rate.
No idea if anything changed but it probably did. Surprised they didn't come with specs from the shop that did them.
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
Injector data is everything to getting your car to run consistently. Changes in voltage, pulse duration, min pulse and pressure all are variables that cannot be guessed. They have to be known to get the car to be predictable. I have used both FIC and ID. Injector data on either is accurate. Computers (ECM) are shit multipliers. Little in equals a lot out. Same is true of all the other items varied from stock. Always know the details of the changes.
2012 ZL1 - Maggie Heartbeat, Port & Polish Heads, Custom Cam, Custom rotating assembly, steel sleeved LS9, No NOS and No water meth. 16psi
810rwhp and 820rwtq 91 Octane 6400 rpm
948rwhp and 951rwtq 105 Octane 6400 rpm
999rwhp and 997rwtq on 60% Ethanol 6400 rpm
The other thing to remember on VVE. It is not SD or VE. What your see is a visual representation of the results of a formula. It has infinite salability within each zone. Zone edges are almost impossible to get perfect and variations between cells cannot be as dramatic as true cell based tables. It is meant as MAF smoother with predictive values on lower ranges and backup to MAF failure. To use it for more than that is asking for trouble.
2012 ZL1 - Maggie Heartbeat, Port & Polish Heads, Custom Cam, Custom rotating assembly, steel sleeved LS9, No NOS and No water meth. 16psi
810rwhp and 820rwtq 91 Octane 6400 rpm
948rwhp and 951rwtq 105 Octane 6400 rpm
999rwhp and 997rwtq on 60% Ethanol 6400 rpm