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    L83 dying on hard stops

    So I have a 14 Sierra that had lifter failure & now has a TSP stage 2 truck cam with a 10% lobe, I was told the phaser was locked. I have revisited the VVE 3 times & it still kills occasionally on aggressive braking even though the lamda error is spot on. Hoping I'm missing something.
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    Something to try - Idle speed reserve - copy and paste very left row into second row / external load needs to be higher in the idle areas - without a log file hard to tell what timing is doing, but keep an eye on torque and timing
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHuggins View Post
    Something to try - Idle speed reserve - copy and paste very left row into second row / external load needs to be higher in the idle areas - without a log file hard to tell what timing is doing, but keep an eye on torque and timing
    Thank you so much for the reply and suggestion, I can definitely see that working out. I just didn't know how aggressive I could be with this table. I'll try it, log it, & report back, thanks again.

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    Thank you! I'll give those external load values at try and let you know how it liked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SultanHassanMasTuning View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHuggins View Post
    Something to try - Idle speed reserve - copy and paste very left row into second row / external load needs to be higher in the idle areas - without a log file hard to tell what timing is doing, but keep an eye on torque and timing
    Ok I tried both suggestions separately, no dice & then tried them together, still no dice. So I went really aggressive on the speed control reserve and it may have helped slightly but I'm not sure. I did logs this time, posting the final file I ended up with and the log from that file, thanks again for your time and your help, I'm still green with gen V torque based idle strategy.

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    log zero throttle torque
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    Quote Originally Posted by SultanHassanMasTuning View Post
    log zero throttle torque
    This OS doesn't appear to have that PID available, tried to upload the offline vehicle file but the file type isn't supported by the forum to upload. Here's what I have available.
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    Any other suggestions?