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    EEC-V any updates of tunability

    so...last time i tried to tune an EEC V it was a horrible frustrating mess of fail. mpvi2 blew up, scanner wont work. wont connect, countless weeks of ticket emails, cant get car to run without flooding ,ETC,ETC. i stepped away a few months because i was about to burn either the car or myself. i have the latest beta now that ive seen has supposedly fixed things,but ive been there done that before. im about to have a little time to try this again. SO,has anybody had any luck with this, or should i just go ahead and get a MS3 and save all the days and weeks of time screwing with it and getting nowhere again...

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    I've tried to datalog recently with the latest beta and it didn't work so well. I would just go with a QuarterHorse or SCT. I've pretty much given up on HPT being good for the older Ford's. Hate to say this, I like HPT and will continue enjoying it for GM.

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    great. what a joke

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    Please open a support ticket.

    We'd like to fix this for you.
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    im trying to avoid all that nonsense if possible.

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    I have tuned many, not really any issues, however, logging with the mpvi2 is very poor, and yet to be fixed. I log with the mpvi1 and there is zero issues. Its a little cumbersome switching interfaces, but still beats using quarterhorse in functionality and tune ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbray01 View Post
    I have tuned many, not really any issues, however, logging with the mpvi2 is very poor, and yet to be fixed. I log with the mpvi1 and there is zero issues. Its a little cumbersome switching interfaces, but still beats using quarterhorse in functionality and tune ability
    well, thats a start i guess. but not really what i was hoping for by now. i do not have an mpvi 1,nor should i need to own one to do what this one is supposed to do. if it still doesnt log correctly, why should there be a need for tickets when you know it doesnt work.

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    unfortunately, i cannot help with that, all i can do is offer up what i do. Now it may be as simple as them needing somebody to test logging, and noone has really been of assistance. they just grab an mpvi1 and keep on tuning
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbray01 View Post
    unfortunately, i cannot help with that, all i can do is offer up what i do. Now it may be as simple as them needing somebody to test logging, and noone has really been of assistance. they just grab an mpvi1 and keep on tuning
    i guess thats kinda my point....shouldnt all that have been done BEFORE being sold as a working system and causing all kinds of cussing and nonsense?

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    when you buy a new car, is a perfect ready to go without exception car, or do you have to visit the dealer for warranty or recalls. WHen you buy a brand new phone, does it work flawlessly or are there glitches.
    unfortunately anytime you deal with humans, and electronics, there will be human error and glitches. The mpvi2 was released, there were some issues, but on the scale that they are being sold, the failures and/or shortcomings are few and far between, especially considering that they were rushed to market due to the lack of pieces needed to continue production of the mpvi1. I have multiples of both models, and asside from small issues, really operates pretty trouble free. Paying attention to posts on this forum and several groups on facebook, help minimize user induced errors. All in all I am satisfied with how my product performs. with the tens of thousands I have spent in credits, and the daily abuse the cables receive, they hold up really well.
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    I agree with mbray01. This is why I love BETA testing... because I can get early access to features, get to test, and help companies improve a product in exchange. This helps companies fix problems faster. Win/Win!

    @OP You purchased a product and want it to work - we get it! All you can do now is wait for support to fix it. Not everyone has issues. I don't think they would have released it if it was broken for everyone...
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    well, ill give it a whirl again and see what happens this time...

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    without a stress free datalogging setup it will not be easy to "learn" to tune. Those who have been tuning for years know exactly what is needed so they know the bare minimum that is needed for tuning.

    If I didnt plan on using this for my other cars, Challenger, Chrysler 300, and GTO I would even try to utilizing the hptuners for the eec-v. I would be on the moates side with real time tuning/emulation.

    If someone purchased the MPVI2 just for eec-v they are not going to be happy with the product in anyway shape or form. Especially if they are not seasoned tuners to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayRab View Post
    without a stress free datalogging setup it will not be easy to "learn" to tune. Those who have been tuning for years know exactly what is needed so they know the bare minimum that is needed for tuning.

    If I didnt plan on using this for my other cars, Challenger, Chrysler 300, and GTO I would even try to utilizing the hptuners for the eec-v. I would be on the moates side with real time tuning/emulation.

    If someone purchased the MPVI2 just for eec-v they are not going to be happy with the product in anyway shape or form. Especially if they are not seasoned tuners to begin with.
    and thats exactly where im at...

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    Its not there "yet"!!!!!!
    However once its there, i can assure you it is hands down waaaaaay better than the quarterhorse(which i use daily on pre 99). There are some bugs to work out with logging, and some injector value issues(may be fixed now) other than that, the software is waaaaay more user friendly. No digging for the correct defs, not worrying about if everything is actually there for tuning. There is massive amounts of info missing in the defs for these cars when using be/quarterhorse/tunerpro. Spend the time, get a support ticket going, and get going with tuning
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbray01 View Post
    Its not there "yet"!!!!!!
    However once its there, i can assure you it is hands down waaaaaay better than the quarterhorse(which i use daily on pre 99). There are some bugs to work out with logging, and some injector value issues(may be fixed now) other than that, the software is waaaaay more user friendly. No digging for the correct defs, not worrying about if everything is actually there for tuning. There is massive amounts of info missing in the defs for these cars when using be/quarterhorse/tunerpro. Spend the time, get a support ticket going, and get going with tuning
    yes. the injector value issue is what made me walk away for months. me not knowing my way around yet and trying to deal with that just fried my brain. im still not even sure what is right or wrong there for sure cause nobody will say anything about it lol. other than that, i do like the setup and the tables and such. and i like the scanner...when it works.

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    I hear you Mach. im in the same boat with an 01 GT w/procharger. the editor is obviously working and i can appreciate the table updates and functionality from where the support for the eec-v started. but the scanner is still glitching regularly. i have my injector high/low slopes and break point dialed in and the MAF transfer fuction is close. but trying to tighten things up has been a pain. i just installed the latest beta updates this weekend and still no improvement. the logging continually freezes. this is making dialing in the upper portion of the curve really sketchy. i have a wideband installed in the bank 1 sensor 2 location and have it commanding closed loop within 250 throttle A/D counts. but without that data being logged its no different then running a marathon with someone covering your eyes every 15-20seconds. and at times it just freezes completely and cannot reconnect without shutting everything down and starting fresh. ive also stripped the PID's down to just the essentials with no luck. not sure if its related but im also having spark timing issues when scaling the tables above 0.9 Load. ive started two support tickets as well with beta updates being the answer. so ive just been waiting for the lates updates, doing them, then retesting/tuning.

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    i spent about half the day today on it...zero progress other than the car "runs" .thats all i can give it. i really thought i should be close to doing something and had understood things enough to go on. but i didnt get very far. i even pulled a tune off another car identical to it with same injectors and maf,etc.and both boosted.other car runs great. my tune wasnt much different AT ALL. i even copied everything that wasnt the same even though it wouldnt have mattered. car still runs like ass. whle logging seems to have improved a bit,NOW all my PIDS ive been logging dissapear. ive repolled,etc. theyre just not there. ive lost fuel source,MAF ad counts,eq commanded,and many others. car seems to take fuel well past idle, but idle is crap and pegged at 18:1. short trims buried past 35 %.. wide band comes back into reality with any throttle. runs absolutely nothing like the other car. i added 10 and then 20 % to the maf down low, and that made it run worse. surge all over the place. fuel trims still go way up and WB still pegged lean. im about over it. i can do anything to a gm and it responds. this is just garbage

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    i didnt get a lot of info from logging of course, but i know i have good injector data,and a good MAF transfer. before i lost my eq commanded pid, i did get to notice lambses around .78 ish. and shorts trims were~25 ish. and wideband showed full lean.but when i revved it, it got rather rich ~10-11. im wondering if my injectors are actually what i was told they are,and the slopes are throwing it all off

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    scratch that . i tried 60 data and zero change. i pulled one out and they are definitely 80's.