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Thread: Rich at Idle - First time with Flex Fuel Enabled - LS3 - E38

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    Rich at Idle - First time with Flex Fuel Enabled - LS3 - E38

    Hi, Please forgive me if this has been asked before, I tried searching several combinations of keywords without success.

    I have a 2016 Chevy SS, Whipple 2.9L, LS3, Headers, M6. I installed Flex Fuel sensor today, and loaded new FF tune.

    I put about 2 gals of E85 on top of 13gals of E10 93 octane, I expected this to put me at about E20.

    Please see attached Tune and log at idle. I have the WB set to Lambda. FF sensor seems to show correct Ethanol concentration, it slowly climbed from 9.6% to just below 20%.

    What concerns me, is after awhile the idle lambda showing on WB EQ Ratio starts to drop less than 1.00, and ends up 10-12% towards rich. Also no longer seeing the narrowband oscillating voltage. Its in closed loop so I would expect it to pull fuel with STFT and LTFT, and come back to stoich and see the narrow-bands start oscillating again...but this doesn't seem to happen.

    Again, forgive me if I'm ignorant, is this normal? I'm using an AFE X-Series OBD2 for WB.

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by ngc1068; 01-01-2020 at 08:35 PM.
    2016 Chevy SS Sedan M6 SBE LS3, Whipple 2.9L, 3.625 upper/stock lower pulleys for 9.5psi, TSP Stg 3 SC Cam, ID 1050x injectors, LS7 MAF, DSX Aux Pump, DSX Flex Fuel Sensor
    2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8, 6.1 HEMI, Edelbrock E-Force TVS-2300, 9psi

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    I think I found the issue. Values in Minimum InjPW table values were way too high.
    2016 Chevy SS Sedan M6 SBE LS3, Whipple 2.9L, 3.625 upper/stock lower pulleys for 9.5psi, TSP Stg 3 SC Cam, ID 1050x injectors, LS7 MAF, DSX Aux Pump, DSX Flex Fuel Sensor
    2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8, 6.1 HEMI, Edelbrock E-Force TVS-2300, 9psi