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    11.8afr isn't life threatening for 6psi. I'm running 10.4afr to 11.0afr with 12.20psi
    2013 Chrysler 300S, Stock 6.4 BGE with 6.4 SRT cam, AIT 18% OD pulley, E-force 2.62 pulley(12.2 lbs boost), fastman 84+4 mm throttle body, 1 7/8 kooks long tubes w/hi-flow cats, 3" Magnaflow Cat-back, FTI 2800 stall, Trans by Hellraiser, Dings Racing valve body and tune, Getrag 3.73, Walbro 400LPH, DW 65# inj. aluminum rad. SRT fans. Brembo upgrade. Stage one MOPAR springs, XIX X39 22x9 +15 - 22x10.5 +22 with NITTO NT555 265/35R22 - 295/30R22 In progress: TSP Stage 4 226/235 582/582 117+4

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    Edit; Dyno on 2/21
    Radix'd 05 L33 5.3 ECSB Z71 @ 387-HP 395-TQ
    2013 Dodge Charger R/T Plus, Stock 5.7L, Edelbrock E-Force Stage 1, 3.25" Pulley, 412-HP 430-TQ Mustang Dyno Numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    Edit; Dyno on 2/21
    Looking forward to see results. Mines never been on a dyno, so I have no idea what I'm pushing. It will see one when cam goes in.
    2013 Chrysler 300S, Stock 6.4 BGE with 6.4 SRT cam, AIT 18% OD pulley, E-force 2.62 pulley(12.2 lbs boost), fastman 84+4 mm throttle body, 1 7/8 kooks long tubes w/hi-flow cats, 3" Magnaflow Cat-back, FTI 2800 stall, Trans by Hellraiser, Dings Racing valve body and tune, Getrag 3.73, Walbro 400LPH, DW 65# inj. aluminum rad. SRT fans. Brembo upgrade. Stage one MOPAR springs, XIX X39 22x9 +15 - 22x10.5 +22 with NITTO NT555 265/35R22 - 295/30R22 In progress: TSP Stage 4 226/235 582/582 117+4

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    AFR being safe really depends how much timing you're running. I run them a little leaner than 11.8 typically

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    Its all buttoned up and ready for the Dyno with me finishing up running the gauges. PITA but worth it. I really like the setup where it is.

    The penetrating oil I used on the exhaust manifold collector bolts finally finished burning off. Freaked me a little until I realized what it was.

    I'm not going to boost it more than it does its self unpredictably until the dyno. What added power I have felt is promising but its hard on the trans without the tune. No WOT pulls yet. No Sir.
    I had to put the engagement spring on #3 to get it to stop light switch sneak attack boosting.

    Normal driving she purrs like a kitten as if no work has been done.
    Radix'd 05 L33 5.3 ECSB Z71 @ 387-HP 395-TQ
    2013 Dodge Charger R/T Plus, Stock 5.7L, Edelbrock E-Force Stage 1, 3.25" Pulley, 412-HP 430-TQ Mustang Dyno Numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    Its all buttoned up and ready for the Dyno with me finishing up running the gauges. PITA but worth it. I really like the setup where it is.

    The penetrating oil I used on the exhaust manifold collector bolts finally finished burning off. Freaked me a little until I realized what it was.

    I'm not going to boost it more than it does its self unpredictably until the dyno. What added power I have felt is promising but its hard on the trans without the tune. No WOT pulls yet. No Sir.
    I had to put the engagement spring on #3 to get it to stop light switch sneak attack boosting.

    Normal driving she purrs like a kitten as if no work has been done.
    They are the sleeper blower. Friend with a 2010 Challenger just up his 2300 E-force to 16psi, has a 6.2 bottom end.
    2013 Chrysler 300S, Stock 6.4 BGE with 6.4 SRT cam, AIT 18% OD pulley, E-force 2.62 pulley(12.2 lbs boost), fastman 84+4 mm throttle body, 1 7/8 kooks long tubes w/hi-flow cats, 3" Magnaflow Cat-back, FTI 2800 stall, Trans by Hellraiser, Dings Racing valve body and tune, Getrag 3.73, Walbro 400LPH, DW 65# inj. aluminum rad. SRT fans. Brembo upgrade. Stage one MOPAR springs, XIX X39 22x9 +15 - 22x10.5 +22 with NITTO NT555 265/35R22 - 295/30R22 In progress: TSP Stage 4 226/235 582/582 117+4

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    OK, I have sinned. I pushed her a little
    I configured the AEM 30-0334 OBD WB kit to scan. Very nice and easy, its what my tuner uses so he will like that, just plug into my OBD pass through for the WB sensor. No crawling under the car. Scan with the same sensor used for the tuning.

    So I took it for a spin, EDIT -> no boost logging yet but It didn't quite get to 6 @3/4 throttle.
    I didn't setup to log boost with my AEM gauge, I later configured the layout to use the MAP data and factor in my area barometric pressure.

    Here is throttle and cruise scan & file. And my Layout with Boost.

    widebandlog02cruise.hpl
    widebandlog01.hpl
    2013 Charger RT via conan_300.hpt
    my_layout_boost_baro_calculated.Layout.xml
    Last edited by 2therock; 02-11-2020 at 12:39 AM. Reason: Attaching
    Radix'd 05 L33 5.3 ECSB Z71 @ 387-HP 395-TQ
    2013 Dodge Charger R/T Plus, Stock 5.7L, Edelbrock E-Force Stage 1, 3.25" Pulley, 412-HP 430-TQ Mustang Dyno Numbers.

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    OK, Mustang Dyno numbers are 412Hp / 430Tq. Just breaking over 6 PSI boost.
    For Dyno-Jet Fans a 12% adjustment would be 461.44 Hp / 481.60Tq.
    Its debated the Mustang dyno are the real numbers. Gains are 96 to 100Hp over no supercharger.
    Curt Dusterhoff did the calibrations at Forsyth County Customs in Forsyth GA. Its one of the locations Curt uses. This location saved me several miles of distance.

    The guys ar Forsyth CC are great and I seen some nice builds in progress in the shop. If you see a Miata with Brembo calipers don't laugh or pick on it.

    dyno_results_2020-02-21-10-32-10.jpg

    I am Very Very pleased with the outcome. Its the same car until I put my foot in it. I love not hearing the screws. It lets me hear the now stronger sounding exhaust. The supercharger is dead silent. The transmission is butter smooth with the stock delay removed and sensible firmness applied.
    Its very daily driver like as Edelbrock brags about but when called upon its MUCH stronger.

    Tons of torque. Shift points are setup for optimum power band applications. I have the boost engagement spring set on the as shipped center (#2) position and its perfect. When I need 2-2.5 lbs its easily manipulated. Actually it happens naturally as if it was calibrated just for me.

    Mods are Corsa cat back, 180 t-stat, K&N drop in, extreme cooling radiator & dual fans, Edelbrock 2300 tvs 15340 kit tuned by Dusterhoff Tuning.
    This is how she will stay for the years to come. I have a 2005 Silverado I did the same way with a Magnuson and its stayed the same and fun since then.

    on_dyno_forsyth_county_customs_01.jpg

    on_dyno_forsyth_county_customs_02.jpg
    Radix'd 05 L33 5.3 ECSB Z71 @ 387-HP 395-TQ
    2013 Dodge Charger R/T Plus, Stock 5.7L, Edelbrock E-Force Stage 1, 3.25" Pulley, 412-HP 430-TQ Mustang Dyno Numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    OK, Mustang Dyno numbers are 412Hp / 430Tq. Just breaking over 6 PSI boost.
    For Dyno-Jet Fans a 12% adjustment would be 461.44 Hp / 481.60Tq.
    Its debated the Mustang dyno are the real numbers. Gains are 96 to 100Hp over no supercharger.
    Curt Dusterhoff did the calibrations at Forsyth County Customs in Forsyth GA. Its one of the locations Curt uses. This location saved me several miles of distance.

    The guys ar Forsyth CC are great and I seen some nice builds in progress in the shop. If you see a Miata with Brembo calipers don't laugh or pick on it.

    dyno_results_2020-02-21-10-32-10.jpg

    I am Very Very pleased with the outcome. Its the same car until I put my foot in it. I love not hearing the screws. It lets me hear the now stronger sounding exhaust. The supercharger is dead silent. The transmission is butter smooth with the stock delay removed and sensible firmness applied.
    Its very daily driver like as Edelbrock brags about but when called upon its MUCH stronger.

    Tons of torque. Shift points are setup for optimum power band applications. I have the boost engagement spring set on the as shipped center (#2) position and its perfect. When I need 2-2.5 lbs its easily manipulated. Actually it happens naturally as if it was calibrated just for me.

    Mods are Corsa cat back, 180 t-stat, K&N drop in, extreme cooling radiator & dual fans, Edelbrock 2300 tvs 15340 kit tuned by Dusterhoff Tuning.
    This is how she will stay for the years to come. I have a 2005 Silverado I did the same way with a Magnuson and its stayed the same and fun since then.

    on_dyno_forsyth_county_customs_01.jpg

    on_dyno_forsyth_county_customs_02.jpg
    good job, congrats.
    2013 Chrysler 300S, Stock 6.4 BGE with 6.4 SRT cam, AIT 18% OD pulley, E-force 2.62 pulley(12.2 lbs boost), fastman 84+4 mm throttle body, 1 7/8 kooks long tubes w/hi-flow cats, 3" Magnaflow Cat-back, FTI 2800 stall, Trans by Hellraiser, Dings Racing valve body and tune, Getrag 3.73, Walbro 400LPH, DW 65# inj. aluminum rad. SRT fans. Brembo upgrade. Stage one MOPAR springs, XIX X39 22x9 +15 - 22x10.5 +22 with NITTO NT555 265/35R22 - 295/30R22 In progress: TSP Stage 4 226/235 582/582 117+4

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    Thank You Tons Coanan. Without your help I would have had to flat bed the car to the shop 1hr:15 minutes away. I would not be using the Cometic gaskets, and would have had some additional rattled nerves.
    Radix'd 05 L33 5.3 ECSB Z71 @ 387-HP 395-TQ
    2013 Dodge Charger R/T Plus, Stock 5.7L, Edelbrock E-Force Stage 1, 3.25" Pulley, 412-HP 430-TQ Mustang Dyno Numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coanan View Post
    You'll need the real shorty swivel to get them, they could of clearanced them better. I went with 12pt ARP second time around.
    What kind of socket did you use on the ARP 12pts.
    Radix'd 05 L33 5.3 ECSB Z71 @ 387-HP 395-TQ
    2013 Dodge Charger R/T Plus, Stock 5.7L, Edelbrock E-Force Stage 1, 3.25" Pulley, 412-HP 430-TQ Mustang Dyno Numbers.