Need help with tune

[suspectedwill]

2000 corvette
cat delete
single muffler borla exhaust
TSP Bald eagle boost cam
TSP dual springs
TSP push rods

Hey everyone im having some trouble car was running rich before the cam install which i know why from the cat delete and now running really rich, also i need help getting this motor happy idle wise and help with getting it to run smooth any help would be really appreciated im a noob at hptuners so be gental just need help and guidence with fixing this and then i can learn on little things after i get the car running right Thanks

[EWY]

Does the car idle? Does it struggle to start? Can you provide a data log?

[mbray01]

without doing a ton of typing, there are already a bunch of really great write ups on doing exactly what your trying to do, geared towards beginners, search using "tuning for a cam", "cam tuning", "idle tuning" etc. The write ups are already here

[5FDP]

Get a wideband o2 sensor if you don't have one. You can't do anything without it.

[suspectedwill]

here is the log file please watch all its not that long

[suspectedwill]

log file please watch all its really crazy

[EWY]

log file please watch all its really crazy

Pm'ed you

[Mr. Smith]

Get a wideband o2 sensor if you don't have one. You can't do anything without it.

Rubbish/BS.

[5FDP]

If you want a noob to learn with narrowband sensors and reading plugs, that sounds like a perfect idea.

A wideband will make anyones life easier.

[Mr. Smith]

A wideband will make anyones life easier.

Rubbish/BS.

[5FDP]

You're a quack Mr. Smith.

I'm sorry you don't feel that a wideband that is a tuning tool makes peoples lives easier. Must be tough to not know what's going on inside an engine.

[Mr. Smith]

You're an idiot, giraffe face.

Over 9,000 posts of telling people they need to buy a wideband and that they should "properly fail" their MAFs and tune their good-for-nothing VE tables.
Every single one of your posts stinks. It took me a while to realize that (it was all coming from the same person / you).

Wideband sensors are the things people here have most problems with. There are countless numbers of threads here regarding wideband troubles/head-phucks. "Easy" and "wideband" are 2 words which just don't go together, like "logic" and "5FDP".

Log off (for once) and go outside (for once).

[Mr. Smith]

If any dumba$$ doubts me (about widebands) just google "hp tuners wideband problem".
Page after page of frustration, confusion, difficulty...

Yeah.. noobs are better off with a wideband

[IARLLC]

"good-for-nothing VE tables"? Somebody does not understand how they work! If you understand why they exist and how they work you can not call them "good for nothing". Saying things like that give away quite a bit about how a person works...or does not work.

Of course you can get started improving the calibration (tuning) of a car with a narrow-band but as anybody who understands sensors knows, a narrow-band will never be very accurate if the A/F is not somewhere between 14.5-15/1. Since none of us tune WOT at 14.5-15 (I hope), a narrow-band cannot get us accurate results at 12.5 or 12.8 or whatever the car needs. Shooting for 890mv gives you a goal but it is not going to be an accurate goal.

Tuning, as far as I can tell, is about making a car work more accurately. Doing it well requires reading instructions...like "how to use a wide-band"..."what is Speed Density". Sensors are tools. Some guys try to use a crescent wrench for everything and have bad results. Those guys are called, Hacks. It really hurts our industry when unknowing people take their car to one of these kind of guys and get terrible results because they don't understand much.

5FDP understands how these systems works and tries to help people understand. 5FDP is a great guy that helps people every day. What he says is all backed up by the facts....by real knowledge.

If people want to do garbage work, that is between them and their poor customers. There is no good in taking a smelly dump here where people want to learn.

[ryan_axberg]

so what is your preferred method for tuning?

[IARLLC]

Like mbray01 wrote, people have already taken the time to write everything that you need for tuning that vehicle. In order to do a good job tuning it you will need to search and read quite a bit. Tuning becomes easy when you have studied and practiced for quite a while but nobody should give you the expectation that it is easy to begin with. It is a fun and valuable ability that we enjoy once we have worked/read hard to gain the ability.

5FDP is so helpful that he will walk the path next to new guys over and over. If you notice that he repeats himself it is because the truth is still true when the next guy asks the same question that somebody else asked last week (or yesterday) and 5FDP is nice enough to repeat the truth for the benefit of the next guy asking the same stuff.

Good place to start:
https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...o-and-how-to-s

[ryan_axberg]

well said, usually people are helpful on here, it's too bad when people just try to be rude

[WAcord]

Dear Mr. Smith,

We are all so sorry to hear what the Wideband did to you. Please don't take out your frustrations on Mr. 5FDP.

With Love,
HP Tuners

[suspectedwill]

well got the wide band installed car is still not tune and running rich as hell out the exhaust mid 12s on the wideband then hit gas goes down then goes up to 13ish then back to normal only thing that is tuned is 02 rear delete

[suspectedwill]

well now that i have everything right on connections to widewand its running real high 14 low 15s