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Thread: *New* Line Pressure During Shift (Based on turbine speed) and adaptive CLADP disable

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    Advanced Tuner JaegerWrenching's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by bstroked View Post
    Thanks. I'll see what i can figure out with the anticipated and torque based stuff... I've disabled the torque reduction and some of that stuff but haven't done anything with anticipated. I've finally gotten my offgoing to be shorter than the oncoming by having the offgoing tables about 20psi higher than the oncoming PSI's... The shifts feel alright except for a little pause during the shift, which gets worse the more torque there is, but they sure don't always look very good on the graph.. Sometimes the rpm drops really good and then sometimes it drags a bit before dropping... I've tried messing with boost psi and times, but never seem to be able to get it. 3-4 is where I really have problems. The scanner doesn't read the E clutch, so I'm kinda just blindly trying to figure it out... It seems to shift better with a little higher boost and psi on the E element but the commanded shift happens way to soon.... As far as the KAM reset, it's in the adaptive tab in the editor, but I haven't seen anything about adaptive reset.... As for the timing, I'm been trying to duplicate a tune that I have from a tuner(whose no longer to be found) that did really good on fuel mileage... As best I can tell they were using the boost control maps to get the response back up...
    The 3-4 was the worst one for me as well, it's the most inconsistent and i had issues on my personal truck with shift flare like you're talking about until i reset the adaptives and cleared the KAM. I was chasing some badly learned values and i had to use my snap on scanner at that time to clear them. That seemed to clear up all it's issues. Form there i bumped up the base TV slope pressure to .0190 on the 4a4m as that's our holding force after the shift completes. I still think that clutch pack is the weakest and the closest to being over powered in stock form but i've yet to tear one down, i'll be doing mine sometime in 2021 and ill make a video on it. I also had to turn off adaptives and keep it off otherwise it'd occasionally do some weird random shifts. My 3-4 maybe hurt but so far it's holding and shifting very consistently. As for fuel mileage I feel it's a game of response vs mileage, I can get it to get better but I sacrifice response, find your happy medium. For me i like that whack the throttle and it goes response, it hits almost as hard as my PD blower 04 cobra. Post that mileage tune if you don't mind, i'd like to see what they have done.

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    So even if you turn off the adaptives they still need to be cleared? And when you guys talk about sending a request to support to add something, do you just ask for a certain thing to be added or do you need the hex address information? As for the tune, I'm trying to duplicate off a log... The OS is patriot15 which is why, I think, hptuners so it's not able to open it after a read...

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    Advanced Tuner JaegerWrenching's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by bstroked View Post
    So even if you turn off the adaptives they still need to be cleared? And when you guys talk about sending a request to support to add something, do you just ask for a certain thing to be added or do you need the hex address information? As for the tune, I'm trying to duplicate off a log... The OS is patriot15 which is why, I think, hptuners so it's not able to open it after a read...
    They shouldn't need to be cleared if they have been cleared after adaptives have been turned off, but sometimes I feel it doesn't work so I make it a habit of clearing them every time. As for adding things just email support and ask to have what ever you need added. Just know It can take a month or two depending on how busy they are and what they are doing. Also you can ask about having your patriot tune "fixed" and they can sometimes send it back viewable in HPT.