Snake Eater 102mm TB

[justhereforinfo]

From searching it seems even with the NW102mm boosted version, the tune needs an ETC scalar adjustment, and some minor tweaks to timing and airflow. The Snake Eater Performance 102mm is boost tested, and waaay less expensive. The tuning needs to be handled by the end user, but that seems to be the case with any TB these days.

Has anyone used this product yet?

https://www.snakeeaterperformance.co...-throttle-body

Their Injectors seem to be pretty good as well, with the inj data coming from Calibrated Success , it sounds like a winner. Maybe thats why they cant keep them in stock... too bad I need more than 1500cc's.

Its going on an LS3 based Dart 427, FED M311, with a big centri blower, on E85. E38 ecm

[jsllc]

I call BS. "Gold Blade Electronics" is a sure sign that it will not handle the large air volume engines.

[RobZL1]

What makes you say that? I assumed they just meant it was electronically equivalent to the gold blade 90mm's and not the silver blade 90mm's.

[jsllc]

The electronics of a gold blade system are exactly the ones that NW and everyone else had issues with. They did not magically get better when installed on the this throttle body. Just another scam.

I have 2 different TBs that use these electronics sitting on a shelf. Never worked when put under load.

[RobZL1]

I didn't realize it was the OEM gold blade motor that was the weak one. Good to know.

[justhereforinfo]

Well, I finally got the motor running and I am having issues with this TB. It seems to not like more than 80% TPS, it throws p1515, p1516 and goes into REP mode. The only tune change I've done is the ETC scalar so far. The tps inside this unit is from (or identical to) a 2009 LS3 Corvette, so unless its in a 2009 vette, it will throw these codes. I've heard people just turn these codes off to stop it from tripping REP mode.

Is this common with the NW boosted TBs?

I'm surprised this has not been explored. It's about 1/4 of the cost.

[justhereforinfo]

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Isnt the stock LS3 TB considered a "Gold Blade"?? Mine seems to be working fine at 20 pounds of boost.

[jsllc]

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Isnt the stock LS3 TB considered a "Gold Blade"?? Mine seems to be working fine at 20 pounds of boost.

What device are you using for a power adder?

[Gpargament]

i run up to a maximum of 12 lbs of boost on my on3performance twin turbo 2007 z06, custom 8620 cam, 685 springs, and #6 nozzle on sno performance methanol. I have no issues with the stock throttle body, I cant see any reason for a 102mm TB, if I want to see 200 kpa I simply up the boost, but thats juts my opinion, maybe bigger tb makes noticeable differences for NA cars. I can also vouch for Snake eater injectors, i use the 1000cc and have no complaints about tuning, idle or wot, I have no idea if there TB is any good.

Just a thought, I see alot of people putting intake manifolds, headers, x/h-pipe, tb, ram air intakes and coil packs on NA cars.
Fast intake manifold plus TB (1300-1500), headers and exhaust (1000-1500) coil packs/ ram air intake (500-1000) total cost about 4000-4500 dollars, target hp ls3 450-500, ls7 500-550.

on3 turbo kit = 3500 target horsepower 700-1000
procharger = 5500 target horsepower 700-1000

are bolt-ons for NA really worth it?

[jsllc]

HUGE difference in push through and pull through.

Blower has to draw air through the TB. That is vacuum. As with all liquids there is a limit to suction.

[Gpargament]

agreed, there is a major difference between different types of FI. I was more referring to putting thousands of dollars into bolt-ons before going FI. After going through everything, from bolt-ons to cam, to finally twin turbo methanol, i realize now the 100-130 hp from cam and every bolt on under the sun, was nothing compared to the twin turbo kit, which adds 200-500hp depending on how much boost i want to run. If i could do it all over again, i would start with FI and a fuel pump upgrade. Then add bolt ons later, if I even wanted them at that point. Just my opinion, something to think about.

[justhereforinfo]

It's a new (2 years old) centri blower from ESS Tuning called the G3X. It has a billet wheel and can be spun to 75,000. So it blowing on the TB blade.

[Asd_srt]

Well, I finally got the motor running and I am having issues with this TB. It seems to not like more than 80% TPS, it throws p1515, p1516 and goes into REP mode. The only tune change I've done is the ETC scalar so far. The tps inside this unit is from (or identical to) a 2009 LS3 Corvette, so unless its in a 2009 vette, it will throw these codes. I've heard people just turn these codes off to stop it from tripping REP mode.

Is this common with the NW boosted TBs?

I'm surprised this has not been explored. It's about 1/4 of the cost.

Sorry to bring this back from the dead. Did you ever fix this issue? I'm having the same issue with the snake eater throttle body on my 2015 chevy SS. I even tried to just turn the codes off to drive back home when I first put it on and took it out for a drive. With the codes off it still went into REP just not showing any codes when that happened.

[Varto20]

i run up to a maximum of 12 lbs of boost on my on3performance twin turbo 2007 z06, custom 8620 cam, 685 springs, and #6 nozzle on sno performance methanol. I have no issues with the stock throttle body, I cant see any reason for a 102mm TB, if I want to see 200 kpa I simply up the boost, but thats juts my opinion, maybe bigger tb makes noticeable differences for NA cars. I can also vouch for Snake eater injectors, i use the 1000cc and have no complaints about tuning, idle or wot, I have no idea if there TB is any good.

Just a thought, I see alot of people putting intake manifolds, headers, x/h-pipe, tb, ram air intakes and coil packs on NA cars.
Fast intake manifold plus TB (1300-1500), headers and exhaust (1000-1500) coil packs/ ram air intake (500-1000) total cost about 4000-4500 dollars, target hp ls3 450-500, ls7 500-550.

on3 turbo kit = 3500 target horsepower 700-1000
procharger = 5500 target horsepower 700-1000

are bolt-ons for NA really worth it?

You maybe thinking your right when you look at the values vs gain but your not taking into account a lot of things .
The reason people do this because they want to modify their engines (safely)and (gradually) If you go forced induction straight away with your stock bolt ons from the factory there a high chance your going to blow something forced induction allows you to get more air into your engine thus creating more power but if your runing stock bolt ons the amount of air will be limited which will limit you to a certain amount of boost probably very low and even then you can't be 100% sure your stock bolt ons will last because it wasn't build for that amount of air your forcing into it you and it would probably start to leak sooner or later that's why you want to go gradually to be safe and have less headaches in the future think of it as if you want to download a game on your computer and it's 15gb and you only have 9gb free memory if you try to install it anyway 9 gb of 15 gb of the game would be installed but you will start to see that the game start to have all sort of crashes ,errors ...etc that's if it even start in the first place .

Of course it would be great if the companies lowered the price of these parts by 50% or less but that's just never going to happen