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Thread: Need Help! Take a look. Coyote swapped 97 Saleen.

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    Need Help! Take a look. Coyote swapped 97 Saleen.

    This is a tune that came in the 97 Saleen coyote swapped mustang with a FRPP control pack. Has a Gen1 coyote motor/TKO600. Maybe I didn't see something in the tune, but with the AC on it drops rpms pretty bad where it almost dies whenever you push in the clutch when coming to a stop. It idles fine with the a/c on. Please let me know what I am missing. I added more airflow at idle, but that didn't fix the problem. Still new at tuning fords. Any input will be appreciated.
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    Log file?

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    What intake and throttle body is on the car?

    I ask, because the Crate_6 calibration (control pack) does NOT have the stock GT throttle body data. I don't know what TB is supposed to be used with an unmodified control pack, but it is not the stock GT one.

    I was chasing this idle undershoot/stall/surge/ fine with AC on issue for a long time. Once I copied the TB data from a stock mustang tune, my idle issues were fixed.

    There are a few other things I found that also affected idle stability, but 90% of the issue for me was the TB data.

    I have found conflicting info on needing a speed sensor input vs not needing one.
    All I can say is, not having a speed sensor input, or having the speedo be off by a lot (read 1/3 of actual speed) it never affected idle for me. It did have an impact on drivability, and can even cause the dreaded wrench light.

    I'm running a Yard pull '13 coyote, with factory 2013 GT pcm (KWC4), and running Crate_6 strategy. 2007 base v6 chassis.
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    Motor is a Gen1 truck coyote with mustang intake cams. Stock intake and throttle body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arieso94z28 View Post
    Motor is a Gen1 truck coyote with mustang intake cams. Stock intake and throttle body.
    Ok, take the throttle body info from a stock mustang calibration. This is the one thing I found made the biggest difference for me.

    Are you using a returnless fuel system?

    Do you have speedo input to the PCM? Is the PCM reporting the vehicle correct speed?

    Did you enter your transmission gear ratios? I forget what ratios are in the control pack, but it was not the trans I am running. After inputting my trans ratios, drivability was greatly improved.