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    Neural Network Trainer by HP Tuners



    Neural Network Trainer by HP Tuners

    The newly introduced Neural Network Trainer by HP Tuners offers industry-exclusive control over
    your vehicle's neural networks.

    This tool allows for direct editing of your vehicle's VE tables and simplifies the complex process
    of neural network training. Your network will no longer need to be disabled to tune the vehicle.

    To learn more about the Neural Network Trainer follow this link.
    http://hptuners.com/products/neuralnetworktrainer

    In addition to the main NNT page there is also an FAQ page available at the following link:
    https://www.hptuners.com/products/ne...trainer/nnfaq/

    • Click here to purchase an MPVI2
    • Click here to download the latest version of our VCM Suite software






    For the full VCM Editor Change Log, please see the following link:
    http://www.hptuners.com/help/vcm-editor/changelog.html

    For the full VCM Scanner Change Log, please see the following link:
    https://www.hptuners.com/help/VCM-Sc...changelog.html


    For more information, and to view the latest supported vehicles list, click here.

    Last edited by Darek@HPTuners; 09-02-2020 at 03:45 PM.

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    Can anyone clarify the year we are living in? I feel I may be lost.

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    I predict that HPT Neural Net will become self aware at 2:14am Eastern Time, August 29th.
    Knock Retard is the reduction or prevention of knock by lowering ignition timing:

    (+) Adding Knock Retard = Reducing Timing. PCM is seeing knock.
    (--) Lowering Knock Retard = Increasing Timing. PCM isn't seeing knock.
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    What is the cost of a token?

    Figured it out. $2
    Last edited by spoolboy; 07-29-2020 at 01:22 PM.
    If in doubt, multiply everything by 1.1.

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    $2.00 ea, buy in packs of 10 or 50
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    When I visited the site earlier today I was rubbing my eyes like..."what....when was this!" Does this me HP tuners cracked the NN algorithm used by the PCM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radrace19 View Post
    $2.00 ea, buy in packs of 10 or 50
    -Greg
    and 25
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

    A wise man once said "google it"

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    Hi Bill only saw pack 1 and pack 2.
    Packs.JPG

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    definitely a 25 option as well
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

    A wise man once said "google it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbolt22 View Post
    I predict that HPT Neural Net will become self aware at 2:14am Eastern Time, August 29th.
    Bwahahahahahahaha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners View Post
    definitely a 25 option as well
    I don't see it. I have looked in product page and there is nothing NN training related. All I saw was there were items in my cart (I did not select those options they were there when I signed in) which is what I showed in the picture in my previous post. In fact, the only way to get to the NN training page is to go to the home page and clicking on the "brain banner" but when you do it shows it is under the products page?
    NN training page.JPG

    I have opened my cart and I can adjust quantity but I see no way to get the 25 token option, what am I doing wrong?
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    In fact I removed the 10 pack and I see no way get it back.

    Said differently, which page do I navigate to, to see the different token options available?

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    Nevermind I found it...took some fumbling.
    Attachment 101892

    Although how do you get to the NN training page without clicking the banner from the home page or the link given in post #1?
    banner.JPG

    And why was my cart pre-populated with 2 packs of 50 tokens and 1 pack of 10 tokens when I logged in? I just now added 1 pack of 25 and it cleared my cart of the other pack of 50?
    Last edited by Homer; 07-29-2020 at 10:18 PM.

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    Webpage is not user friendly

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners View Post
    definitely a 25 option as well
    You hide the Tokens and other things very well on the HP website. I looked while i was logged in to my account at every box or link that i could find. Never did find a Token for sale. And you have really buried the link to "user defined " For a few months i would click on template editor on the vcm editor page. I would get a popup that i have not purchased software to use that feature. So i would clicked on HP webpage and like "Token" I could not find it. Then a few days ago i seen a link in the forum to buy the use of user defined template it. After clicking the link and buying it. I saved that page for reference spent over an hour trying find the user defined link on HP page. Typed in exact wording in search box and still did not come up. Then i got 2 other people here to join the search. 3 adults with the page to look at from link in forum. None of us ever found it on HP website page. Tune depository i can find. But i have never pulled a result from any search that i tried. And i even tried basic search. year "all" dodge "all" model "all, hit search. Zero results found is always the result.

    And the user defined template, I bought access to. I click the navigator and the list pops up the same as the channels to pick from to add to my log channels. But one click turns my choice Blue. Double click does nothing. Import, export and all other thumbnails do nothing on the open pid chart. Thumbnails on the open Template that i clicked to open pids list just beeps because system wants the pid list window closed. Any other option i try. I get the popup are sure you want leave without saving? No i dont want to leave without saving repeats the same cycle. Great fun for an hour or 2. But fun fades fast. Other option is click the yes i am sure and it closes out. Tuner part of your system actually works great for me. It is the extra tools and features that i cant get figured out.

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    The tokens are somewhat hidden on the "tuner tools" page under "my account" and I also had some surprise tokens in my cart.

    https://tunertools.hptuners.com/my-account
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoolboy View Post
    The tokens are somewhat hidden on the "tuner tools" page under "my account" and I also had some surprise tokens in my cart.

    https://tunertools.hptuners.com/my-account
    I had tokens in my cart also. I removed them...
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    So, 25 tokens per month to train any quantity of vehicles we want?
    Or 25 tokens per VIN for 1 month? Each additional VIN 25 extra tokens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecarlodrag View Post
    So, 25 tokens per month to train any quantity of vehicles we want?
    Or 25 tokens per VIN for 1 month? Each additional VIN 25 extra tokens
    25 for 1 vehicle and gives you a month of use for that 1 vehicle as it is alot like tuning a VE table and will take multiple iterations to get it spot on.
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

    A wise man once said "google it"

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    Will there be a step by step of what needs to be done for tuning in order??? Hate to waste Tokens for no reason...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumVelocity View Post
    Will there be a step by step of what needs to be done for tuning in order??? Hate to waste Tokens for no reason...
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    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

    A wise man once said "google it"

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    what are those model have ANN?