Idle Desired & Integral Airflow Issue

[GrannySShifting]

Have a car thats not responding as they normally would. Usually if Idle Desired Airlfow is too low, itll have dips thats hard to catch, raise it up until Idle Integral Airflow isnt having to add any corrections. but this is showing Integral at .5 lb/min or so, add that to tables and its still showing Integral adding .5, did that couple times and Integral never changes keeps adding and doesnt seem to get too big where it starts yanking timing out as its means to lower idle rpm when you overshoot? Found it kind of odd - put up 3 iterations showing Idle Desired Min raised but not effecting Integral

[hjtrbo]

Try these values. I based them off your dynamic air flow

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[Lakegoat]

Are you tuning in SD? Maf fail high is 1, fail low is 14,000---shouldn't that be 1,2? P0101,102,103 are no mil light, should be mil on first? Commanded afr is 20.58, making your stft's chart way off.

[GrannySShifting]

Thats where I usualy start hjtrbo - but I can keep raising those values to silly high ones and its still acting like it has to learn and add air, something isnt adding up. If you overshoot it you should get to a point where it cant lower idle airflow with blade position and it will pull timing even into the negatives but this will not???

Are you tuning in SD? Maf fail high is 1, fail low is 14,000---shouldn't that be 1,2? P0101,102,103 are no mil light, should be mil on first? Commanded afr is 20.58, making your stft's chart way off.

It will fail is MAF reads anything above "0" Hz, or fail it if it reads anything below 14000 Hz. Works either way. I didnt notice not being MIL on first. COmmanded is 20.58 because tune is scaled in half I believe, I inherited this from elsewhere

[NotSure]

Any luck with this? Trying to fine tune my idle. Have added to Min Airflow to closely match Desired and where it actually runs at, but Integral still stays low. I am paying attention to the Min Airflow ECT multiplier as well, and taking it into consideration. It seems that adding to Airflow Min does not seem to bring Integral closer to zero.

[NotSure]

Another thing I don’t get is how Integral can be -20 to -40 lb/hr when actual airflow, Min, and Desired are around 70 lb/hr. You certainly aren’t going to be subtracting that much and it still be running.

[GrannySShifting]

Another thing I don?t get is how Integral can be -20 to -40 lb/hr when actual airflow, Min, and Desired are around 70 lb/hr. You certainly aren?t going to be subtracting that much and it still be running.

I feel like this is a reporting error in HPTuners that has shown up in later versions