2013 Mustang 5.0 Locked tune and no start condition with stock file loaded

[txcharlie]

I have a 2013 Mustang 5.0 with VMP Gen2 blower. It has a SCT X4 and the tune is locked by VMP. It will start and run with the VMP tune, but when I load the stock file back in I get a no start condition. I have contacted VMP and they did not offer any help, so what are my options, besides spending $300 in credits to change the strategy? The stock file strategy is FSFD1A5.

[SultanHassanMasTuning]

can you return the car to stock and try to start and see if it works

whats the strategy when its on SCT

maybe you need to remove PATS

[Ranger Coyote]

If it has a VMP Gen2 it won't have stock injectors. My Roush Phase 2 is really close to VMP and it came with 47lb injectors. I'm assuming you put the injector data for what you have in?

*EDIT* I just noticed you are advanced tuner, so that was probably a silly question. VMP sometimes rewires your IAT2 to your IAT1, sometimes there is a harness and you use the MCT switch and have both, and sometimes there is no IAT2 at all. It might not start if you get -40degree readings on the IAT or no readings.

[decipha]

Write a stock tune to it with the xcal.

If you need a stock file to load to the handheld shoot me a PM and Ill help you out.

[txcharlie]

can you return the car to stock and try to start and see if it works

whats the strategy when its on SCT

maybe you need to remove PATS

Yes, that is when I get a no start condition. Starter does not turn the engine. I've seen this happen when a corrupted strategy is used and I assume that is what's going on here. The locked tune strategy is VMPSCCALLH32. The only info I got from VMP was that they don't remove PATS.

[AJennings]

Does the vehicle run when the vmp tune is loaded. starting may not be a flashing issue but could be something mechanical.

[txcharlie]

If it has a VMP Gen2 it won't have stock injectors. My Roush Phase 2 is really close to VMP and it came with 47lb injectors. I'm assuming you put the injector data for what you have in?

*EDIT* I just noticed you are advanced tuner, so that was probably a silly question. VMP sometimes rewires your IAT2 to your IAT1, sometimes there is a harness and you use the MCT switch and have both, and sometimes there is no IAT2 at all. It might not start if you get -40degree readings on the IAT or no readings.

No worries. Haven't seen anyone, with all the answers, yet. I will check the IAT readings.

[txcharlie]

Write a stock tune to it with the xcal.

If you need a stock file to load to the handheld shoot me a PM and Ill help you out.

That is when I get the no start condition. No starter activity.

[txcharlie]

Does the vehicle run when the vmp tune is loaded. starting may not be a flashing issue but could be something mechanical.

Yes, it runs with VMP tune.

[AJennings]

Yes, it runs with VMP tune.

Could have a corrupted stock file from the sct. Id return to stock with sct so its unmarried, have reflashed with stock file from ford. Than you have a good file to start from.

[SultanHassanMasTuning]

^this yes

[veeefour]

Sometimes there no other way besides IDS

[txcharlie]

Isn't there a way to restore the stock file on the SCT X4? As in download an new file and load it on the SCT X4?

[decipha]

That is when I get the no start condition. No starter activity.

Dont return it to stock write a stock file to it as a custom tune

[txcharlie]

Dont return it to stock write a stock file to it as a custom tune

Oh, gotcha. PM sent.

[SultanHassanMasTuning]

yes flash a stock file that matches the PCM code

and now your SCT device will be junk ;-)

[txcharlie]

yes flash a stock file that matches the PCM code

and now your SCT device will be junk ;-)

It was junk before I touched it. LOL!

[decipha]

I don't understand. How does writing a tune make the xcal device junk ?