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    Bog issue

    Hey guys,

    Got a Nag1 5.7 challenger with a TSP Stage 3 cam and long tubes.

    When launching the car from idle-1500rpm it falls on its face up until 3k-ish RPM and picks itself back up. Any remedy for this? Torque management issue?

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    Post the tune file and logs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 732mopar View Post
    Hey guys,

    Got a Nag1 5.7 challenger with a TSP Stage 3 cam and long tubes.

    When launching the car from idle-1500rpm it falls on its face up until 3k-ish RPM and picks itself back up. Any remedy for this? Torque management issue?
    Rear gears, 2800 - 3200 stall converter will help some
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    Heres the tune file. Ill get a log of this happening tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wjjeepman34 View Post
    Post the tune file and logs.
    heres a log. towards the end you can see I go WOTrev_21_v3.hpl

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    what converter are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by white1 View Post
    what converter are you running?
    Stock converter

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    Quote Originally Posted by 732mopar View Post
    Stock converter
    Thats a pretty big cam for a 5.7 and stock converter in a nag1. You defiantly lost some low end

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    Quote Originally Posted by 732mopar View Post
    Hey guys,

    Got a Nag1 5.7 challenger with a TSP Stage 3 cam and long tubes.

    When launching the car from idle-1500rpm it falls on its face up until 3k-ish RPM and picks itself back up. Any remedy for this? Torque management issue?
    Thats what you'll get from a stock converter, you need to get a 3200+ converter so you are more into the power range. The came may make good power over stock, but at 1500-3k rpm you'll lose alot over stock also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wjjeepman34 View Post
    Thats what you'll get from a stock converter, you need to get a 3200+ converter so you are more into the power range. The came may make good power over stock, but at 1500-3k rpm you'll lose alot over stock also.
    I figured i needed a TC but was also since the cam is a boost cam i was hoping when i add a magnuson blower that it picks up power down low and across the whole rpm range of course.

    Guess I just wanted to see if there was any problem with the tune before throwing a converter in.

    Thanks for the reply guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 732mopar View Post
    I figured i needed a TC but was also since the cam is a boost cam i was hoping when i add a magnuson blower that it picks up power down low and across the whole rpm range of course.

    Guess I just wanted to see if there was any problem with the tune before throwing a converter in.

    Thanks for the reply guys!
    The blower will certainly help but you will still want a converter. Being a roots style blower you can get away with less converter though

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    Quote Originally Posted by white1 View Post
    The blower will certainly help but you will still want a converter. Being a roots style blower you can get away with less converter though

    I ended up changing some Torque Management tables and was able to feel a difference down low a little (pedal % and power % tables) but im in agreement about getting a TC. Was thinking something around 2800-3000 since ill be doing a roots blower. Also kinda stuck on the fence about centrifugal but id just go up in TC. Also these 3.06 open gears gotta go. Thinking of doing 3.09 LSD