rebuilt nag1

[Turbo2gnx]

greetings folks. about to taredown the ol gray nag1 to rebuild. picked up some blue tops and got a rebuild kit and another torque converter and a valve body kit. wanted to know if we could run this new build on a stock tune and just readapt until we can get a tuner for it?

[TransGo Robert]

As long as it is the same unit the ratios will be the same si no problem there, no tuning needed.

[Turbo2gnx]

ok cool, thank you for your assistance! ill be tarring it down in a few to see if any hardparts are damaged

[Turbo2gnx]

As long as it is the same unit the ratios will be the same si no problem there, no tuning needed.

we picked up a transgo valve body kit also.

[TransGo Robert]

we picked up a transgo valve body kit also.

[Turbo2gnx]

everything is clean! clutches look beautiful, im guessing the previous owners had it rebuilt. so its looking like a bad torque converter. gonna put in the new parts tho. i tried to upload images but nothing would upload, maybe theres something going on with the site?

[TransGo Robert]

everything is clean! clutches look beautiful, im guessing the previous owners had it rebuilt. so its looking like a bad torque converter. gonna put in the new parts tho. i tried to upload images but nothing would upload, maybe theres something going on with the site?

What problem are you trying to fix?

[Turbo2gnx]

What problem are you trying to fix?

we were getting a lot of slipping to the point starting hearing noise from the tranny. metal banging and such, the car wouldnt move when i gear and let off the brakes and when you gave it gas, it would hardly move along with the banging and crunching sounds. it sounded like all gears were playing ping pong. heard a few not nice things about the converter we bought after we installed it but not sure if its the converter yet but theres nothing left to be the problem.

[TransGo Robert]

we were getting a lot of slipping to the point starting hearing noise from the tranny. metal banging and such, the car wouldnt move when i gear and let off the brakes and when you gave it gas, it would hardly move along with the banging and crunching sounds. it sounded like all gears were playing ping pong. heard a few not nice things about the converter we bought after we installed it but not sure if its the converter yet but theres nothing left to be the problem.

Man I can't think of anything in the converter that would make noise like you describe. The stator could be blown to pieces, sprag blown up or locked up it does not make any noise like that. Very odd that you can't see a problem in the geartrain.

[Turbo2gnx]

Man I can't think of anything in the converter that would make noise like you describe. The stator could be blown to pieces, sprag blown up or locked up it does not make any noise like that. Very odd that you can't see a problem in the geartrain.

so far everything is beautiful! ill be making a compressor to compress the plates to remove the snap rings and ill have all clutches out and everything exposed. im stumped as well from the symptoms and what im seeing. do you know if some of these new clutches are refurbished used fiction disks? putting the clutches ion atv fluid to soak and noticed the back of these single sided clutches have heat marks on them! i texted southern hotrod about it, hopefully ill hear back in 2 days. still cant upload imagaes, these clutches are too clean and unworn to have 190k miles on them.

[TransGo Robert]

so far everything is beautiful! ill be making a compressor to compress the plates to remove the snap rings and ill have all clutches out and everything exposed. im stumped as well from the symptoms and what im seeing. do you know if some of these new clutches are refurbished used fiction disks? putting the clutches ion atv fluid to soak and noticed the back of these single sided clutches have heat marks on them! i texted southern hotrod about it, hopefully ill hear back in 2 days. still cant upload imagaes, these clutches are too clean and unworn to have 190k miles on them.

The problem must be somewhere else, maybe the rear end? As for the clutch you are using I have never heard of them, but I have never seen refurbished frictions. The heat marks you see, it is probably just from when the lining was bonded on the steel core. As for yours looking good after 190K miles, that's normal. Wet clutches do not wear over time like a dry clutch. They only wear or burn if there is an issue causing them to slip.

[Turbo2gnx]

The problem must be somewhere else, maybe the rear end? As for the clutch you are using I have never heard of them, but I have never seen refurbished frictions. The heat marks you see, it is probably just from when the lining was bonded on the steel core. As for yours looking good after 190K miles, that's normal. Wet clutches do not wear over time like a dry clutch. They only wear or burn if there is an issue causing them to slip.

well all cushion plates were flat so ill be orderingnew ones from southern hotrod. all clutches are beautiful and will be saved for another nag1, have 4 vehicles with a nag1. i want to take the torque converter to get cut open and check the condition but i dont trust the one thats in the area! i took my tripple disk with a updated stator converter from my diesel and had them check it out and was told it was all stock. the converter they gave me back let go i two days olaying with the truck. i took it to another shop and was told it was all stock no triple disk, no upgraded stator. the first shop that is local swapped my converter. 2300 for.

[TransGo Robert]

well all cushion plates were flat so ill be orderingnew ones from southern hotrod. all clutches are beautiful and will be saved for another nag1, have 4 vehicles with a nag1. i want to take the torque converter to get cut open and check the condition but i dont trust the one thats in the area! i took my tripple disk with a updated stator converter from my diesel and had them check it out and was told it was all stock. the converter they gave me back let go i two days olaying with the truck. i took it to another shop and was told it was all stock no triple disk, no upgraded stator. the first shop that is local swapped my converter. 2300 for.

Interesting, it is the first time I ever hear of someone modifying those converter to have more frictions. The OE setup already use a clutch pack with two double sided frictions and three steels, maybe they use thinner steels. Hopefully you find someone you trust to open that converter, I would be really surprised if the problem was in there.

[Turbo2gnx]

hopefully ill have it cut open by this weekend. so far nobody ive contacted has the dish curved cusion plates for any of the clutch packs. now we are at a standstill, cant finish the build till we get those cusion plates. hptuner isnt replying on my issue on the uploads of images! theyre customer service sucks! product decent but customer support sucks!

[TransGo Robert]

hopefully ill have it cut open by this weekend. so far nobody ive contacted has the dish curved cusion plates for any of the clutch packs. now we are at a standstill, cant finish the build till we get those cusion plates. hptuner isnt replying on my issue on the uploads of images! theyre customer service sucks! product decent but customer support sucks!

What issue are you having uploading images on other files on here? Give me some details maybe I can help.

[Turbo2gnx]

when i got upload the files they never show up on hptuners. I've try numerus of times and no files show up for me to select. i just ordered the mercedes shift solenoids for the gears and the torque lock up, A few months of everything working ok on a stock tune we will take it to get tuned and dyno. ran into bump in the road on the rebuild, need to change all snap rings. nothing local. i didnt get a chance to contact shouthern for them yet. i think theyre open tomorrow.

[TransGo Robert]

when i got upload the files they never show up on hptuners. I've try numerus of times and no files show up for me to select. i just ordered the mercedes shift solenoids for the gears and the torque lock up, A few months of everything working ok on a stock tune we will take it to get tuned and dyno. ran into bump in the road on the rebuild, need to change all snap rings. nothing local. i didnt get a chance to contact shouthern for them yet. i think theyre open tomorrow.

That's odd. Let me give you a step by step view of screenshots when I do it and see where it is different for you.

First I click on this:
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Second I click on "Choose File" and chose the file I want to upload:
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Third I click on "Upload file(s)":
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And then it looks like this:
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[LilSick]

click on - go advanced > attachments > (+)add files > once it appears drag it down to where it says attachments > click done

[Turbo2gnx]

click on - go advanced > attachments > (+)add files > once it appears drag it down to where it says attachments > click done

i tried that as well. when i first got hptuners i had the same issue, contacted support and was told they would look into it.a few days later it was working. i havent been on in a long time and mow its doing the same and nothing from support.

[Turbo2gnx]

That's odd. Let me give you a step by step view of screenshots when I do it and see where it is different for you.

First I click on this:
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Second I click on "Choose File" and chose the file I want to upload:
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Third I click on "Upload file(s)":
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And then it looks like this:
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when i click upload, nothing uploads. the file is no longer there to download ad i have to do it againg and same.