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    how to tune F/A WITHOUT O B1S2 OR B2S2?

    Have no rear 02s just wb, help
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    the wide band is all over the place, idle 13.9-16 driving the same. dont know if the wb is working correctly of my tune needs more attention.
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    Don't need rear O2s, they just report how cats are doing.

    Try another W/B sensor, mine was doing the same, replaced it and back to normal.
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    ok cool just use the up 02's to populate the grafts? the WB is new, about 4months. ill return it and see what happens. thanks for the reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo2gnx View Post
    ok cool just use the up 02's to populate the grafts? the WB is new, about 4months. ill return it and see what happens. thanks for the reply.
    Just need the fronts for tuning. I had a PLX fail pretty quick. Too much wired in, so I just bought another sensor.
    2018 Trackhawk PCM/TCM tune by Dusterhoff.
    Flex Fuel, MMX faux 95mm TB, GripTec 2.85, 10% ATI lower, FIC1200, ARH 1 7/8 w/cats, 180 T-stat

    13 Chrysler 300S, RAM BGE 412 stroker, cam motion 232/246 619/619 118 +4, ATI 18% OD pulley
    Whipple Gen5 3.0, 2.50 upper pulley, Smooth Boost controller, FIC 1200 inj. Nick W 108mm TB, FORE dual return fuel system, E85, FTI 2800 stall(SRT83380), SHR WAR Viking trans and valve body, Getrag 3.73, 1 7/8 kooks w/hi-flow cats, 3" Magnaflow Cat-back 943rwhp

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    ok cool, taking it out this weekend.
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    You don't have a log. That being said there is a normal oscillation of A/F in all vehicles that aids in "scrubbing" of cat converters. The more rapid the change in the switching point the better the cats will work.

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    ok so this is normal, cool. do i need it to do this even if i removed the cats?
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    Really does not matter if it does not have cats. The rapid rich lean switching is done solely for cat function.

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    how to get stft to -/+5 and a stable idle? thanks in advanced.
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