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    Tuner in Training SantafeNoob's Avatar
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    Noob Issues learning, tables seem to contradict

    Could some one please tell me what's going on here? I see these two graphs showing both rich and lean at the same time.
    Am I wrong?

    Thank you.
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    I'm gonna guess a math problem in your WB setup.

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    I have LT + ST [Math] as an average, showing percentage.
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    EQ Ratio #1 sensor as average, Lambda

    As a first time "tuner", I'm just following tutorials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SantafeNoob View Post
    ... EQ Ratio #1 sensor as average, Lambda ...

    EQ Ratio is the inverse of Lambda.

    GM used EQ Ratio as the "native" means of fuel calculations in Gen 3 (P01 / P59) calibrations.

    The later Gen 4 ECMs used a mix of EQ Ratio and AFR within the calibrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    EQ Ratio is the inverse of Lambda.

    GM used EQ Ratio as the "native" means of fuel calculations in Gen 3 (P01 / P59) calibrations.

    The later Gen 4 ECMs used a mix of EQ Ratio and AFR within the calibrations.

    Thanks. Comparing the FT's I figured my EQ ratio table was off.
    Where can I find the proper setup for a graph utilizing my Wideband.
    Thank you

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    If you are going to be running in CL then I would just use your NB sensors to tune part throttle areas and leave the WB for higher load/WOT areas of the map. I've found there will always be a descrepancy between the WB and NB sensors. Makes no sense to tune your part throttle areas with a WB if you are going to be having the NBs turned back on and correct it back to what the NBs think is stoic. I always use my NBs to tune part throttle areas

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    Well I figured out my WB issue this week. It's a POS. It is 7 weeks old, cost +$250 and it's dead.

    AEM 30-0334 X-series UEGO Wide Band.

    I have contacted the seller (past return date), and AEM. I am hopeful that they will stand behind their product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantafeNoob View Post
    Well I figured out my WB issue this week. It's a POS. It is 7 weeks old, cost +$250 and it's dead.

    AEM 30-0334 X-series UEGO Wide Band.

    I have contacted the seller (past return date), and AEM. I am hopeful that they will stand behind their product.
    that's the one i have....have had it going on a few years now and is perfectly fine (to my knowledge)