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    if you have adaptive off your LTFT will be zero

    you can take it slow
    watch your lambda targets and trims and adjust your maf period accordingly

    saw your log under wot ideally you should be around .98 load or so and will drop top rpm

    this could be due to injector manipulation
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    Quote Originally Posted by SultanHassanMasTuning View Post
    if you have adaptive off your LTFT will be zero

    you can take it slow
    watch your lambda targets and trims and adjust your maf period accordingly

    saw your log under wot ideally you should be around .98 load or so and will drop top rpm

    this could be due to injector manipulation
    attached : is my last update on the tune i have copied the values of LTFT+STFT that mstang_man post it from my log on last reply and multiply it on my Maf period table

    also found stock 2013 boss 302 tune and copied all the tables that effect the intake volume on my tune ( because i have BOSS 302 IM installed )

    i see you are going back and forth on the LU47 data on my tune what i'm missing here ?

    i have copied all the injector data from stock 2017 Roush LU47 tune

    also i'm struggling to dial Speedo on the car ( the cluster reads 80 km/h and the GPS shows 70 km/h )

    used this but nothing change the same speed difference is there

    Speedo > Vid Speed Limiter > set Disabled
    Speedo > final drive Ratio > 3.55
    Speedo > VSS tire Rev by Mile > 746.00 ( Tire size is 255/45-18 )
    Speedo > N/V Base > 44.1383 i have used some math on this one ( 746*60)X(3.55) divided by 3600 = 44.1383 )
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    speedo options on my tune

    and it's still off by 10 km/h

    any help ?
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    updated on tune

    tune base 5 cruise log and part to 5k log in 3rd

    any suggestins i should dial on the tune ? the because the next log will be WOT LOG

    also have same problem with VCM scanner showing all the data in custom table ( stft + ltft vs maf period ) as blank data

    need help in that also
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo tuner View Post
    updated on tune

    tune base 5 cruise log and part to 5k log in 3rd

    any suggestins i should dial on the tune ? the because the next log will be WOT LOG

    also have same problem with VCM scanner showing all the data in custom table ( stft + ltft vs maf period ) as blank data

    need help in that also
    not sure but whats is in red is factory, not sure on n/v Base, and tire revs per mile in the middle, put your tires in their and test
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    Quote Originally Posted by mstang_man View Post
    not sure but whats is in red is factory, not sure on n/v Base, and tire revs per mile in the middle, put your tires in their and test
    Just tried that and test

    Cluster is reading 120 KM/H , GPS Reads 101 KM/H so it’s off by 19 km/h

    I have tried your changes in the pic still the issue is there

    Also tried again my Revs Per/mile which is 746 but still reads Wrong

    Idk if the Trans Tune is involved on this or not ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo tuner View Post
    Just tried that and test

    Cluster is reading 120 KM/H , GPS Reads 101 KM/H so it’s off by 19 km/h

    I have tried your changes in the pic still the issue is there

    Also tried again my Revs Per/mile which is 746 but still reads Wrong

    Idk if the Trans Tune is involved on this or not ?!
    I posted this awhile back when there was another user having the same issue.
    with SCT software Axle Ratio switch needs to be set to (0), set your axles ratio I.E. 4.1 for 4.10, Max value for axle ratio for IPC ( set above new Gear ration IE 4.10 to (4.15), and lastly, Min Value for Axle ratio for IPC set Below gear ratio IE 4.10 ( set below to 4.0500) this allows PCM to keep up with tire wear and avoid wrench light. if the stang is automatic you will have to figure out your N/V

    specifically for AT 2015+
    Rear Axle Ratio => 3.549
    Switch for Axle CDP => 0
    Switch for Tire CDP => 0
    Tire Revs Circumference Mm =>...To circumference in millimeters

    Last but not least, Gear Ratio => Base N/V of Vehicle => To the correct N/V
    You can also set the Use Final Ratio-> Enabled, and then whatever you put in the Ratio should be all it uses and disregards what is in the BCM. Havent tried this tho.
    Lastly, have you tried the features "Special functions" under the VCM scanner. It will ask you to enter the gear ratio and then the rev/mile for the tires.
    Last edited by mstang_man; 05-14-2022 at 04:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstang_man View Post
    I posted this awhile back when there was another user having the same issue.
    with SCT software Axle Ratio switch needs to be set to (0), set your axles ratio I.E. 4.1 for 4.10, Max value for axle ratio for IPC ( set above new Gear ration IE 4.10 to (4.15), and lastly, Min Value for Axle ratio for IPC set Below gear ratio IE 4.10 ( set below to 4.0500) this allows PCM to keep up with tire wear and avoid wrench light. if the stang is automatic you will have to figure out your N/V

    specifically for AT 2015+
    Rear Axle Ratio => 3.549
    Switch for Axle CDP => 0
    Switch for Tire CDP => 0
    Tire Revs Circumference Mm =>...To circumference in millimeters

    Last but not least, Gear Ratio => Base N/V of Vehicle => To the correct N/V
    You can also set the Use Final Ratio-> Enabled, and then whatever you put in the Ratio should be all it uses and disregards what is in the BCM. Havent tried this tho.
    Lastly, have you tried the features "Special functions" under the VCM scanner. It will ask you to enter the gear ratio and then the rev/mile for the tires.

    i just checked on my IPC there's no something called Max/Min value for the gear ratios

    also in VCM Scanner Special Functions i have only this options :

    1- KAM reset
    2- Crank Relearn
    3-trans Reset Adaptive

    VCM Scanner 4.10.7 Version

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo tuner View Post
    i just checked on my IPC there's no something called Max/Min value for the gear ratios

    also in VCM Scanner Special Functions i have only this options :

    1- KAM reset
    2- Crank Relearn
    3-trans Reset Adaptive

    VCM Scanner 4.10.7 Version

    Screenshot (25).png

    I did some research to see what all SCT changes in the Software, and the Switch and Gear ratio are only changed. Now I know For 2015-2019 Mustangs, Ford programs the tire size of the car on BCM. IDS or Forscan can program BCM ad factory data jut need to know the Hex code.

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    [QUOTE=mstang_man;687251]I did some research to see what all SCT changes in the Software, and the Switch and Gear ratio are only changed. Now I know For 2015-2019 Mustangs, Ford programs the tire size of the car on BCM. IDS or Forscan can program BCM ad factory data jut need to know the Hex code.[/QUOTE

    Si if you measure the tire radius from the ground to center of axles, i have a calculator that will give me estimated N/V / tire revs per mile

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    I used on my N/V base this formula:

    ( Tire Rev /mile * 60 ) x ( Gear Ratio )
    ————————————————————- = N/V base
    3600


    I tried multiple times doing math with this Formula but until now this not solve the problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo tuner View Post
    I used on my N/V base this formula:

    ( Tire Rev /mile * 60 ) x ( Gear Ratio )
    ————————————————————- = N/V base
    3600


    I tried multiple times doing math with this Formula but until now this not solve the problem
    Do you have a Forscan Software? Quick fix if so.

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    Yeah i have it but it doesn?t work with custom tune only stock tune

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo tuner View Post
    Yeah i have it but it doesn?t work with custom tune only stock tune
    Speedo Calibration is in the BCM. you have to modifiy the Asbuilt data. I can generate that code for asbuilt data for BCM