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    6.4 Wrong Scaling in Suite

    I'm not sure if HP Tuners is reading my values wrong or what. But I notice certain x-axis scaling is off along with EBP values being slightly higher than what MCC shows. Anyone provide some input on this? This seems to happen on every 6.4 file I open.

    stock SL.PNGsmoke limitation factory.JPGebp factory.jpgHP Read EBP.PNG

    Anyone with access to SCT confirm the values and scaling?
    Last edited by Srpracing; 07-12-2022 at 12:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srpracing View Post
    I'm not sure if HP Tuners is reading my values wrong or what. But I notice certain x-axis scaling is off along with EBP values being slightly higher than what MCC shows. Anyone provide some input on this? This seems to happen on every 6.4 file I open.

    stock SL.PNGsmoke limitation factory.JPGebp factory.jpgHP Read EBP.PNG

    Anyone with access to SCT confirm the values and scaling?

    HPT is correct
    2008 J2 F-350 CCSB

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSM 6.4 View Post
    HPT is correct
    See WinOLS Below
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    2008 J2 F-350 CCSB

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSM 6.4 View Post
    See WinOLS Below
    Thank you. That clears it right up.

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    Well I decided to test something out and made the x-axis identical to what was displayed in MCC. Now identical tunes....That fixed all of my drivability issues... It doesnt make any sense to have the axis scaled into the negatives... As the truck will never see that... I think its a scaling issue on HPT's side.
    Last edited by Srpracing; 07-14-2022 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srpracing View Post
    Well I decided to test something out and made the x-axis identical to what was displayed in MCC. Now identical tunes....That fixed all of my drivability issues... It doesnt make any sense to have the axis scaled into the negatives... As the truck will never see that... I think its a scaling issue on HPT's side.
    No that's how, Ford set it up its not a issue with HPT.

    That screen shot is directly from a SID902 (6.4 PCM) Engineering A2L

    Ask a ford calibration engineer on why they set it up that way lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSM 6.4 View Post
    No that's how, Ford set it up its not a issue with HPT.

    That screen shot is directly from a SID902 (6.4 PCM) Engineering A2L

    Ask a ford calibration engineer on why they set it up that way lol.
    Thank you. You are right. I apologize.
    Last edited by Srpracing; 08-05-2022 at 02:46 PM.

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    The X axis isn't MAP it's actually gauge or boost PSI. Negative is anything under sea-level or 14.7 MAP, or 0 on this smoke map. If it was actually MAP you'd only be using the last 4 columns for 85% of the world and that's a waste of that map. -5.8psi is roughly 12500ish feet in elevation and probably scaled to the highest point you can actually drive to on a paved road. That is why it's scaled negative.
    Last edited by JaegerWrenching; 07-16-2022 at 03:37 PM.

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    I appreciate it.

    Does anyone know the table IDs for the Fuel Deviation Max and min? I’m trying to get support to add those tables but I don’t know the IDs off hand. Mcc doesn’t tell me anything.