If I install the 2 Bar upgrade OS do I need a MAF that outputs the signal relative to 2 Bar also, or does the PID just rescale the existing output from the MAF?
If I install the 2 Bar upgrade OS do I need a MAF that outputs the signal relative to 2 Bar also, or does the PID just rescale the existing output from the MAF?
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
2 Bar is speed density only meaning no maf.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...
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So if I use 2 bar SD, does that mean the air flows are calculated and the MAF measurement is ignored?
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
there should be no maf measurement since it will not be there.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...
A wise man once said "google it"
Now I'm confused. You mean that I should physically remove the MAF?
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
No you don't have to remove the MAF.
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If that is the case, does it do anything at all?Originally Posted by EC_Tune
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
Once you fail the maf I don't believe it gives a reading at all.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...
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You will still get MAF Hz and MAF Airflow but the PCM ignores it if the MAF is failed (DTC P0103 shows up with the scanner).
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As the title says, to use the 2 bar SD will I need to replace my esisting MAP with a 2 bar unit?
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
yes.Originally Posted by dgcarver
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...
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Where do I buy one? Any recommendations?
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
Originally Posted by dgcarver
This time you said MAP. You meant MAF right?
NO, I meant MAP. I think I got my question answered about the MAF not functioning under speed density (SD) but in reading the info about the 2 bar SD operating system it calls for a 2 bar MAP. The stock on is only a 1 bar MAP, so I have ordered one from on-line.Originally Posted by rrmccabe
2005 VR, Z-51, Six Speed, Procharger D1 @ 8psi, piller mount vacuum/boost/wide band gages, LPE hood, Z06 Rear fenders, 160 deg T/S, LG Motorsport headers w/cats & X-Pipe, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Z06 Brake Upgrade w/ SS lines, Full VR GM Spoiler, KP BAP w/Racetronix wiring harness, DPE Procharger 2 minute oil drain kit, Michelin Runflat Pilot Sport 345/30/19 Rear, 275/35/18 front, Halltech CAI, Tuned and Dyno'd at 521 rwhp 489 rwt by LG Motorsports
Does anybody have the part # for the 3 bar map to replace my stock one?
I have the number for the 2bar map sensor, and its Chevy part number 12580698. It is used on the supercharged Cobalt, and is a direct fit replacement for the one bar unit on the LS-2. It is what I am using on my 2006 Corvette turbo coupe. I know its not 3bar, but I hope that helps.
Last edited by wewing; 11-11-2007 at 05:24 PM.