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    A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    This puppy is why I bought the tool. Couldn't get at it
    with the Predator, not the downshifts. Populating this
    table with sensible values on the downshifts will turn
    your car into a whole new beast. No more WOT-only
    downshifts makes it, like, a driver's car.

    If you look at the part-throttle upshift values they are
    sort of linearly increasing, like makes sense for some
    proportionate response to demand. But the kickdown
    thresholds are flatlined at insanely low MPH except for
    the 100% TPS cell. So you can't get it to kick without
    it being floored.

    I went and manually scaled the kickdown values to
    "track" the upshift MPH values, offset by the same MPH
    as the difference between WOT up and down. 2nd is
    offset by -2, -4, -6MPH from the upshift value. So the
    kickdown is now throttle-proportional, more pedal kicks
    down earlier, just like if you had a TV cable TH350.
    Yeah, baby. It rocks.

    I would only do this to the Normal table. I applied it
    to my Cruise table and it makes the cruise control run
    in a lower gear. Odd, I guess it just "likes" the low
    gear better but I am going to adjust it to be more like
    stock in that table.

    If we get upload space figured out I will put the table
    up. Or I can email it as an Excel snippet to anyone who
    PMs me for it.

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Can you email me a copy of this Jimmy? Thanks
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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Yeah, I'd like to take a look at it as well, Jimmy. I was thinking of looking into doing this, but you beat me to it.

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    me too:
    [email protected]
    thanks

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    There is an Excel sheet hosted (see the V-8 Misc section, Excel sheets
    thread) that's pretty good. I have since moved on to higher force motor
    table values, 3.42s, etc. but that stuff is still "pretty good for normal".
    You would want to mess it around for your gearing and converter
    particulars. A .bin that corresponds is also up on Horist's repository site.
    The Excel was done in the days where you couldn't read / copy from other
    model*year .bins.

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    I think thats the table I adjusted and it helped me out a lot, I haven't really changed much else though
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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    OK, I just finished changing my part throttle shift points, I will check it tonight on the SS when I get home from work. I used Excel to calculate a linear shift point graph, I didn't really like the OE graph. Thanks to Jimmy for inspiring me to change it. I also made the downshift points lower in respect to the upshift points. Please note that the 100% TPS values in this table (Shift Speed vs %TPS vs Shift) are the ones you input in the WOT table (WOT Shift Speed vs Shift). If you alter the first table, be sure to copy and paste the 100% TPS values to your WOT table, and have the WOT Shift RPM vs Shift table match as well.

    I will post up the results tonight of my experiment and the screen shot of what I just posted. Thanks again Jimmy!

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Jimmyblue,
    I also scaled my upshift and downshift values vs TPS, since I was changing gears anyway. But I won't know how I did until next month when the snow's gone. Could you e-mail me a screenshot or something of your values, or 2d graph so I can compare them to how I did it? [email protected]

    Thanks

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Here's my first attempt at it. Like I said, I can't fine tune until the snow's gone




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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Here is what I did with our 2001 Camaro SS. ;D


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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Thanks

    I can see a few differences, but that's to be expected.
    I'm shifting at 6550, so my WOT shift points are 5mph higher (for now).

    And I'm considering not letting the TC lock up in 3rd. With 3.73's instead of 2.73's, I can't think of any around town driving where it'd really benefit me.

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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Great post Jimmy! THis is why I bought HPT also. James didn't know how to fix this. So I messed with these tables (with some help from you & others) and got it figured out a while ago. What a BIG difference!

    I wonder tho, what affect will the stall converter I'm putting in have on this? Or the vacuum modulator I'm putting on?
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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    anyone have a trans tune for a 6.0L boosted truck? i tried 12secss tune, it's ok, but, seems like it would be better for the "performance" tune aka "tow/haul" mode. shifts up and down way too much for my taste.
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    Re: A4 Must-Do : Shift speed %TPS table

    Jimmy,
    When you get some free time, could I get a copy of your excel spreadsheet? [email protected]
    Thanks
    Any updates on your new TC?
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